Saigen Update 5.0.3
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Saigen Update 5.0.3
Saigen Update 5.0.3 - Bug Fix
I deleted the old announcement for reasons I felt it wasn't well thought out or placed, or ideas were solidified. And I wasn't pleased with the way it was executed, or how I ran it. So I'm going to redo it, this time if theres any edits done. Its because of spelling errors or grammatical.
So basically just to summarize the topics, this focuses on Minor Country Samurai, Companion Clarification, Suiton Clarification, and to answer the Pyramids suggestion.
Minor Country Samurai
Minor Country characters can now start out at C-rank as well as D-rank. However they're still limited as they normally were at 1 in Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Control. This rule not only applies to RPCs but also henches.
-Courtesy of Jinan and everyone who participated in the thread for sparking the conversation.
Companions
Companions are ridable, and the speed of which follows the companions stat. However this comes with a debuff. To better explain this idea, if the companions speed stat is 35, and the user's speed stat is 26. This applies a debuff of -9 to the individual riding against their highest X-Jutsu stat (Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, or Taijutsu). Meaning you're not gonna be as proficient in your most useful skill while riding.
Swarms are not covered by this. Since swarms are essentially kinesis like, chakra free, and can preform advanced maneuvers they do not receive this luxury of carrying their own. They're still limited to the user's speed or sync. Whichever stat is the lowest.
Companion stats default max out at 45, with one stat being able to be at 50. In-case you were unaware.
-Courtesy of Wright for bringing the idea up.
Suiton
Suiton has been muddled a bit, I admit, even myself was confused at first. But how it works is that Suiton does persist, so if you make a lake or ocean using suiton. Its not going to just disappear. It will exist, but it does not retain any strength, speed, or envelopment passive. It is now just this existing body of water.
Pyramids
In response to the pyramids suggestion. We've reviewed it, and discussed. And we believe pyramids are better, and they're not restrictive in the slightest. They promote cohesive jutsu building, and lower jutsus still have a lot of value applicable end-game. So we do appreciate the input, and willingness to bring ideas to the forefront. Unfortunately we don't agree, and will keep pyramids as they are. Every jutsu rank B-S which after 5 jutsus of D&C each, those are respectively very valuable in end-game fights as well as high-ranking fights. There is no need to change the current system, and is much less restrictive than that of the old system. Nor do we believe raising the prices and requirements of pyramids would solve this. So we very much have to disagree and say no to the idea.
-Courtesy of Chuck and Brent for bringing the conversation up.
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So basically just to summarize the topics, this focuses on Minor Country Samurai, Companion Clarification, Suiton Clarification, and to answer the Pyramids suggestion.
Minor Country Samurai
Minor Country characters can now start out at C-rank as well as D-rank. However they're still limited as they normally were at 1 in Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and Control. This rule not only applies to RPCs but also henches.
-Courtesy of Jinan and everyone who participated in the thread for sparking the conversation.
Companions
Companions are ridable, and the speed of which follows the companions stat. However this comes with a debuff. To better explain this idea, if the companions speed stat is 35, and the user's speed stat is 26. This applies a debuff of -9 to the individual riding against their highest X-Jutsu stat (Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, or Taijutsu). Meaning you're not gonna be as proficient in your most useful skill while riding.
Swarms are not covered by this. Since swarms are essentially kinesis like, chakra free, and can preform advanced maneuvers they do not receive this luxury of carrying their own. They're still limited to the user's speed or sync. Whichever stat is the lowest.
Companion stats default max out at 45, with one stat being able to be at 50. In-case you were unaware.
-Courtesy of Wright for bringing the idea up.
Suiton
Suiton has been muddled a bit, I admit, even myself was confused at first. But how it works is that Suiton does persist, so if you make a lake or ocean using suiton. Its not going to just disappear. It will exist, but it does not retain any strength, speed, or envelopment passive. It is now just this existing body of water.
Pyramids
In response to the pyramids suggestion. We've reviewed it, and discussed. And we believe pyramids are better, and they're not restrictive in the slightest. They promote cohesive jutsu building, and lower jutsus still have a lot of value applicable end-game. So we do appreciate the input, and willingness to bring ideas to the forefront. Unfortunately we don't agree, and will keep pyramids as they are. Every jutsu rank B-S which after 5 jutsus of D&C each, those are respectively very valuable in end-game fights as well as high-ranking fights. There is no need to change the current system, and is much less restrictive than that of the old system. Nor do we believe raising the prices and requirements of pyramids would solve this. So we very much have to disagree and say no to the idea.
-Courtesy of Chuck and Brent for bringing the conversation up.
-♠DirectorPr
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Saigen Update 5.0.3
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Really, really disagree with the 45 on companions.
That makes them imba and on par with end-game PC characters which was never, ever the intention of a companion, despite people's incessant whinning and bitching that their companions can't be as strong as an end-game toon.
That makes them imba and on par with end-game PC characters which was never, ever the intention of a companion, despite people's incessant whinning and bitching that their companions can't be as strong as an end-game toon.
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I have to disagree with you there Jesse. While I understand where you are coming from, and it makes a lot of sense, I think keeping their stats so low are a hindrance to people that want that type of play style. Primarily people who make inuzuka, or other pet users. I'm not saying that companions should be as strong as a PC, but they should at least be competitive.
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i mean, companions are still capped out at a total of 250 stats iirc so that mitigates it a bit.
really any remotely decent genjutsu user will shut down any companion in their tracks.
really any remotely decent genjutsu user will shut down any companion in their tracks.
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Most of them have been around longer than Director and can actually read.
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Right, what Sia said. It just makes companions going that far in stats even more stat stretched than RPCs anyway with the lower stat count, so it's even more one tick pony specialist vs mediocre jack of all trades with companions.
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yeah but theres also the potential to have craptons of companions to really circumvent the fact that theyre so spread out
a single use of the companion mastery ability allows you to not give a crap about basically everything, to be honest.
a single use of the companion mastery ability allows you to not give a crap about basically everything, to be honest.
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Onu:And then he tried to bang me and I asked if we could just cuddle so he knows I’m still upset about it
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Kao:boo fucking hoo
Onu:validusrex#1137 — Today at 12:28 AM
25% American is still 100% FREE BABY LETS FUCKING GO
This Delightful Exchange:Sinpoder: Where can I find a mentor?
Sinpoder: or is that Sia?
Nick: Sia is more of a palpatine than a mentor
Valkier:Sia's the opposite, they know the system better than any of us but then ignores it to try do/allow whatever regardless
Hayate:Your intention doesn't matter if your action creates pain
Validusrex, Size of 15 Ryo Puppet Boat:Half a kayak, large enough to fit one person bent-over or crossed-legged.
Siatupid:There is peace in being trash.
Wright:calling people pussies, bitches or whatever and threatening to hurt people makes you very much less than a man and much like a young boy
Onu:You intentionally handicapping yourself is not a reason to change the system.
Onu:It is not the mods job to build ideas for you, its our job to make them systematically acceptable. If there is a core concept to it that isn't acceptable, there is nothing any mod can say that will magically make it work.
Onu:"Over half of the questions asked in the box can be answered by reading the rules."
Sia:"Everything is banned until balanced."
Kabuto:"Tourneys bring out the worst in people."
Tydie:And part of why I scooped him is cus I wanted to make him a Toukai and people told me they thought it was a bad idea :/
so now Ryoga is a constant reminder to always do what I WANT to do, not what others think I should do
Tydie:saigen is like the dysfunctional family you choose to be part of
Methtastic:Crazy how elaborate the system is for a group of people who only finish a fight a tenth of the time after 2 months of arguing over 3 seconds of combat
Varian:If you want to speed up the process you can just talk to one of the other staff members about it.
Most of them have been around longer than Director and can actually read.
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Not understanding the distinction between Swarms and Pets. Pets are chakra free and can do advanced maneuvers too.
Besides, if your swarm is summoned, and not natural, you have to pay chakra to maintain it.
Besides, if your swarm is summoned, and not natural, you have to pay chakra to maintain it.
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Actually, ye, I don't see why a swarm can't follow this.
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Agreed with wright, i mean, it should follow the same principle, but you could just make the drawback greater since users are having to focus to control it themselves. Making it -2x the gab or something would be better, no?
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Yeah I'd like to contend swarms should be included in this.
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Well considering swarms potentially are 50^3m bodies, with the literal speed and strength of 50. We decided it was best to leave them out of the new ruling on companions considering the capabilities of them were far greater of a normal companion. Not to mention based on the individual stat of a user, that if spec'd into would cause their speed to be gimped anyways at a max of 39. If the swarm can carry them at the sync stat, whats the point in gimping their speed. However I will say even if we allowed it, I'm not quite sure how to debuff them since there's not really an X-Jutsu stat that we can gimp since their focus is on the swarm itself.
Though, I'll discuss it with the others, and we'll see what they think. And what their input is as well on the topic of opening this up to swarms.
Though, I'll discuss it with the others, and we'll see what they think. And what their input is as well on the topic of opening this up to swarms.
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Uh, just as a note, swarms function in feet not meters. At least according to the swarms rule page.
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