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Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:18 pm
by NSRP
Henlo Everybody



So the revamp we've been talking about on the discord is complete. Contrary to our previous revamps, this was a simplification of rules. We trimmed a lot of fat in various places and simplified as best we could. We did our best to balance keeping the rules in tact, while also getting rid of extra hurdles you have to jump through to be an active participant on the forum. This includes things like a smaller stat system, simplifying how ninjutsu functions, getting rid of plot boards entirely and the like. I'm not going to go into it in depth here because you can just read the new rules. If a section looks familiar, thats probably because its mostly the same! Easy.

There are a few things that have been updated.
  • The archive rework we were working on, will still be worked on. The archives will be updated over the course of the coming weeks to have jutsu of the new standard in it.
  • The Genma are being fixed as I type this, so there will be a slight lag but they should be up by the end of this week.
  • The hunting rules have not been updated yet as our lovely mod ShinobiTruth will be rewriting the system entirely in order to reward you more for hunting....and surviving the hunt.
The point of this post is to
a) Let you know that this revamp is posted
b) Let you know what to do now

So. A. The Revamp has been posted. Yay.

B.

Switching over to the new system will be relatively straightforward. There will be a soft switch and a full switch.

Soft Switch The Soft Switch is pretty simple, and doesn't require you to actually do anything. Its automatically in effect starting now. This is what it entails.
  • Stat Changes
    • Your genjutsu and ninjutsu stats no longer have a function. They just sit there, uselessly.
    • Your Stamina stat is now functionally your Chakra Pool stat.
    • Your Taijutsu stat is now functionaly your Endurance stat.
    • Your Instinct Stat is now functionally your Willpower stat.
  • This means until you revamp, anything you do will run off the new stat system, and you'll just pretend like you have your new stats.
  • Your jutsu now switch over to control unless the stated speed and strength is greater than what it would be if it was off of control.
    • If your jutsu has 10 speed and strength and you have 30 Control, that jutsu now has up to 30 Speed and Strength when you use it until you full switch.
    • If your jutsu has 20 Speed and Strength and you have 15 Control, the jutsu keeps its 20 Speed and Strength.
Pretty easy.

However, if you want to do a full switch, you get two options.

1. You can do a direct switch. To do this all you'll do is post in this thread with your stat total and your total points earned (87/362), and someone will respond with your new stat total. Then you can go through and update your jutsu to meet the new control settings. If you ave jutsu that are no longer necessary, we ask that in your revamp mod you simply convert the jutsu into points, not turn it into a new jutsu. This is to expedite the process. Additionally, the rules on complexity means that some jutsu may no longer be possible due to being too complex, if this is the case it will be handled on a case by case basis.

2. If you feel the integrity of your character has been compromised due to these changes, you can reach out to a staff member through PM or on the discord, and explain why, and staff will let you know if you can have a redo token to redo the character. Since genjutsu, ninjutsu and taijutsu all changed in some way due to this change, its very much possible that certain designs are just not feasible anymore. If this is the case we will happily work with you.


FINALLY, your Plot Boards subforum will remain in-tact, but defunct, for a while, so that you can collect any information you may need out of it. Afterwards it will be moved somewhere else, but still accessible, just in case!

I'm sure this leaves a lot of questions to be asked, and answered. Feel free to ask them in this thread, or on discord.

Have fun.

~NSRP Staff~

P.S Genma have been updated. Please peruse them and if you see any mistakes feel free to let me know and I'l correct it ASAP. -Niro

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:57 pm
by Joker
Raizou - 90/346

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:21 pm
by Ace Trainer
Joker:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:57 pm
Raizou - 90/346
85 Stats and a perk slot

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:30 pm
by Mre-face
(228/32) Enzaragi

(80/83) Mondai

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:40 pm
by Ace Trainer
Mre-face:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:30 pm
(228/32) Enzaragi

(80/83) Mondai
Enzaragi - 178
Mondai - 80

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:48 pm
by Kabu
Masami - 248/388
Eiko - 200/355
Miyako - 207/11
Rika - 131/159
Jun - 54/13

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:43 pm
by Ace Trainer
Kabu:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:48 pm
Masami - 248/388
Eiko - 200/355
Miyako - 207/11
Rika - 131/159
Jun - 54/13
Masami - 191 w/ 44 Mastery + Perk
Eiko - 160 & a perk
Miyako - 163
Rika - 91 & Perk
Jun - 54

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:44 pm
by Takumi
Takumi

Started at Genin,
134 stats
350 points

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:17 pm
by Sia
Muramsa, Maido
304 stats
548 points

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:42 pm
by Ace Trainer
Takumi:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:44 pm
Takumi

Started at Genin,
134 stats
350 points
115 + perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:16 pm
by Ace Trainer
Sia:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Muramsa, Maido
304 stats
548 points
240 + a perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:54 am
by Diatenshi
Senju Masaru
83 stats/ 153 points

Toukai Chisaki
93 stats/ 23 points

Ryoshi Kaisui
95 stats/ 64 points

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:54 pm
by Niro
Tatsuo
325 stats + 59/1385

Kosuke
182 + 5/199

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:09 pm
by Ace Trainer
Diatenshi:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:54 am
Senju Masaru
83 stats/ 153 points

Toukai Chisaki
93 stats/ 23 points

Ryoshi Kaisui
95 stats/ 64 points
Masaru - 83
Chisaki - 88 + Perk
Kaisui - 95

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 pm
by WrightJustice
Genma Host: Nishiki
Points: 95/327
Stats:
+Ninjutsu: 15 (10+5)
-Taijutsu: 20
-Genjutsu: 5
+Stamina: 10
+Control: 10
-Strength: 17
-Speed: 20
-Instinct: 20
+Mastery: 50
Total: 167

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 pm
by Ace Trainer
Niro:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:54 pm
Tatsuo
325 stats + 59/1385

Kosuke
182 + 5/199
Tatsuo - 250
Kosuke - 154 + perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:17 pm
by Ace Trainer
WrightJustice:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 pm
Genma Host: Nishiki
Points: 95/327
Stats:
+Ninjutsu: 15 (10+5)
-Taijutsu: 20
-Genjutsu: 5
+Stamina: 10
+Control: 10
-Strength: 17
-Speed: 20
-Instinct: 20
+Mastery: 50
Total: 167


Nishiki - 135 + perk,
Your Mastery is 44, but you can subtract from the 135 to increase it.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:03 pm
by Mre-face
Don't know where else to post this and this is the most relevant! but there are two errors regarding heavenly body it still mentions the taijutsu stat however we have removed that stat also had a double bracket in the end
ErrorShow
The fundamental skills of [Heavenly Body Control] cannot be mastered by those with less than 35 Taijutsu, Strength, and Speed. These skills include those required to create almost ninjutsu-equivalent effects simply from the movement of one’s body such as animal-shaped blasts of compressed air from especially positioned hands and other similar feats which are beyond reality. This facilitates their use of related Taijutsu, however taking this concentration means the user cannot take Overlay, Kinesis of Space/Time concentration]]

Revamp Guide

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:41 am
by ShinobiTruth

Revamp Guide

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:13 am
by Servant
200/234

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:24 pm
by Ace Trainer
Mre-face:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:03 pm
Don't know where else to post this and this is the most relevant! but there are two errors regarding heavenly body it still mentions the taijutsu stat however we have removed that stat also had a double bracket in the end
ErrorShow
The fundamental skills of [Heavenly Body Control] cannot be mastered by those with less than 35 Taijutsu, Strength, and Speed. These skills include those required to create almost ninjutsu-equivalent effects simply from the movement of one’s body such as animal-shaped blasts of compressed air from especially positioned hands and other similar feats which are beyond reality. This facilitates their use of related Taijutsu, however taking this concentration means the user cannot take Overlay, Kinesis of Space/Time concentration]]

Fixed that, thanks.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:26 pm
by Ace Trainer
ShinobiTruth:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:41 am
218/374 - Iwamaru (Jounin)
86/100 - Ookuri (Genin)
81/103 - Hijikata (D-Rank)
Iwamaru - 172 + perk
Ookuri - 86
Hikikata - 81

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:29 pm
by Ace Trainer
Servant:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:13 am
200/234
162 w/ 42 Mastery + perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:11 pm
by Zao
Zao's already max stats.

His companions are as follows:

Tarou - 180 Stats
Toge - 215 stats
Apep - 170 stats
Hana - 177 stats
Zou - 180 stats
Shi - 160 stats
Gogyou - 161 stats
Tako - 160 stats
Wei - 160 stats

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:43 pm
by Ace Trainer
Zao:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:11 pm
Zao's already max stats.

His companions are as follows:

Tarou - 180 Stats
Toge - 215 stats
Apep - 170 stats
Hana - 177 stats
Zou - 180 stats
Shi - 160 stats
Gogyou - 161 stats
Tako - 160 stats
Wei - 160 stats
123 stats

As I explained on the discord, I'll put here just for everyone understand in case they need to do companions. Since companions stats just come from the owner, I'm subtracting your current total for each companion, from their starting rank. Those numbers are added together (=123 since you said they all started at A-rank), and you can redistribute those 123 stats across your companions however you see fit, starting from the base A-rank in the new system (120)

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:02 am
by Legacy
Gene Mitsurugi [started from Genin and progressed to Spec. Jounin]

7/395 - point total

Stat tototal: 313

Ninjutsu: 35
Taijutsu: 35
Genjutsu: 28
Stamina: 39
Control: 41
Strength: 35
Speed: 50
Instinct: 50

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:59 pm
by Ace Trainer
Strategist:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:02 am
Gene Mitsurugi [started from Genin and progressed to Spec. Jounin]

7/395 - point total

Stat tototal: 313

Ninjutsu: 35
Taijutsu: 35
Genjutsu: 28
Stamina: 39
Control: 41
Strength: 35
Speed: 50
Instinct: 50
244 + perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:00 pm
by Ace Trainer
TheOneAndOnly:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:35 am
So what is the average for senju chakra pool?

It will depend on your rank. So take whatever your starting stat total is for your rank and divide it by 6. It likely won't be a whole number so you can round down.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:34 pm
by Ace Trainer
So with the changes to genjutsu, Shio’s build is kinda on his head. I want to maintain his gen/tai build (ugh) but it means I’m gonna have to change his abilities and general theme to be more conducive with it, and the fable genjutsu design i have on him is literally impossible with changes to Kai. So....yeah, hoping to revamp him entirely.

Also his stats are at 315. Strat was at 313 so I’ll just take his total + perk if that’s cool with everyone.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:21 am
by Rain21199
Zakuro
91/355 Points

211 Stat Total
Waiting for mod to go through
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=8341521&p=4173270#p4173270

Should probably add that Zakuro's build probably won't work as well in the new system, so I'd like to be able to redo it

Revamp Guide

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:10 pm
by TyDie
Kiyori Henrin - 325 stats, 123/681 points. There might need to be some in depth reno for her jutsu but for the most part I think she should be fine for her abilities.

Izanami Sakaki - 161 stats, 161/425 points. Again, some jutsu reno most likely, but assuming she's still the host the switch should be simple stat wise.

EDIT - IDK if this factors, but Sakaki has 50 mastery, which apparently no longer applies to the total stats a character can have

Revamp Guide

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm
by Kao
Kota
Stats: 313
Points Total: 976

Shizuo
Stats: 226
Points Total: 495

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:44 pm
by Ace Trainer
Rain21199:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:21 am
Zakuro
91/355 Points

211 Stat Total
Waiting for mod to go through
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=8341521&p=4173270#p4173270

Should probably add that Zakuro's build probably won't work as well in the new system, so I'd like to be able to redo it
169 w/ 29 Chi + Perk, you can reduce your stat total to add to chi

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:47 pm
by Ace Trainer
TyDie:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:10 pm
Kiyori Henrin - 325 stats, 123/681 points. There might need to be some in depth reno for her jutsu but for the most part I think she should be fine for her abilities.

Izanami Sakaki - 161 stats, 161/425 points. Again, some jutsu reno most likely, but assuming she's still the host the switch should be simple stat wise.

EDIT - IDK if this factors, but Sakaki has 50 mastery, which apparently no longer applies to the total stats a character can have
Kiyori - 250
Sakaki - 120 + 40 Mastery + Perk, you can take from the 120 to increase your mastery

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:49 pm
by Ace Trainer
Kao:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:55 pm
Kota
Stats: 313
Points Total: 976

Shizuo
Stats: 226
Points Total: 495
Kota - 246 + perk
Shizuo - 179 + perk

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:14 pm
by Willoria
Kenshin Yasu
Stats: 51
Points: 111

Meiyo Souta
Stats: 325
Points: 106/249

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:19 pm
by Ace Trainer
Aes Sedai:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:14 pm
Kenshin Yasu
Stats: 51
Points: 111

Meiyo Souta
Stats: 325
Points: 106/249
Oh thats easy

Yasu - 51
Souta - 250

Companions I need to know what rank they started at.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:20 pm
by Willoria
Ace Trainer:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:19 pm
Aes Sedai:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:14 pm
Kenshin Yasu
Stats: 51
Points: 111

Meiyo Souta
Stats: 325
Points: 106/249
Oh thats easy

Yasu - 51
Souta - 250

Companions I need to know what rank they started at.
Both of the companions started at A Rank, they hadn't made a ton of progress just yet.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:57 pm
by Ace Trainer
Aes Sedai:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:20 pm
Ace Trainer:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:19 pm
Aes Sedai:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:14 pm
Kenshin Yasu
Stats: 51
Points: 111

Meiyo Souta
Stats: 325
Points: 106/249
Oh thats easy

Yasu - 51
Souta - 250

Companions I need to know what rank they started at.
Both of the companions started at A Rank, they hadn't made a ton of progress just yet.
Then you get 15 stats to spend between the two of them, and start them both at the stat total for A-rank.

Revamp Guide

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:25 am
by Texas
Tenzin - 198 total stats/167 total points