Problems, Requests and Mistakes

Zasadel · Post by **Zasadel** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:13 pm

I think Bannin rankups should have an additional award besides just points.

Currently theres no reason other then 30 points for me to go from Jounin to Bannin. I can max out and get the same stuff.

Just a thought.

Post by **Kabu** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:16 pm

Zasadel:
Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:13 pm
I think Bannin rankups should have an additional award besides just points.

Currently theres no reason other then 30 points for me to go from Jounin to Bannin. I can max out and get the same stuff.

Just a thought.

We're currently working on figuring out benefits for rank ups.

WrightJustice · Post by **WrightJustice** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:30 pm

Seemingly no clear indication on rules for puppet's stats and if they can be trained or not. Talking on chat and Kabu thinks they shouldn't because of rank up but that forces you to buy e-ranks and rank up and up or be jipped on some stats.
Current rank up total is 119 but 120 is probably better, though 125 could allow some extra training, that being said there's also no indication if they have the same individual stat limits (45/50 or whatever).

Also it is my personal opinion that the limit on number of and the rank of puppets you can carry is outdated and I figure should be moved away from the character ranking limits or at least partially away.
I figure a person's stats should be incorporated into how many puppets a person can have to a certain point and perhaps the rank too, which means a genin with higher stats can go beyond the current limit of 4 puppets and/or the limit of D-Rank puppets.
Side Note: I also couldn't find proper indications on if there's a general limit of companion ranks outside vague texts about getting any companion so long you can complete the set plotboard. Knowing these rules will aid in knowing if my proposed idea makes sense in allowing higher ranked puppets or not.

Whatever the case I can see that perhaps allowing genin unlimited puppets isn't a grand idea but there could still be an upper limit similar to the B-Rank jutsu rule, though I do believe this more stat based limit follows the new rules better (genin at max stats being allowed more than 4 d-rank puppets and so on).

Example:
Sticking to the current 10 puppets allowed for A-ranks it could be changed that you need 25 Taijutsu and Control to have 10 puppets instead.
Then someone with even higher stats could get even more so perhaps 10 puppets could be the hard limit for genins (following the current example).

Though it could allow for a general change in the maximum amounts and maybe ranks allowed but still have unlimited and S-Ranks locked behind being S-Rank characters or something like that.

Another idea I had is specialists could maybe factor in it and maybe Taijutsu specialists can further increase their maximums or perhaps specialist could factor in how to unlock unlimited amounts.

WrightJustice · Post by **WrightJustice** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:31 pm

Separate problem so double post!

I don't wish to be mean on Space/Time users but given the 25 mixed ninpou and 3 S-Rank pure ninpou pyramid requirements can be achieved within the same jutsu set (e.g. the pure ninpou pyramid factors into the 25 jutsu), the combined requirements appear unrealistic and below what one would expect to match both.

A 3 S-Rank pure ninpou pyramid requires 22 jutsu at minimum (5D, 5C, 5B, 4A and 3S) which leaves something like 1 Iijutsu, 1 Fuuinjutsu and 1 Sensory jutsu to be allowed to be acceptable as a good enough mix of ninpou on top of the 22 pure ninpou to hit the 25 jutsu requirement, which I do believe is not what is intended by having a mixture of ninpou.

I'm not sure what would correctly fix this or clarify it better but currently the requirement of 25 ninpou is kind of a false number given the need to go beyond 25 to accurately convey a mix of teachings.

Options I see are:
1. Lower the number of S-Ranks needed, though at minimal effect (still only 6 jutsu leftover at a 2 S-Rank pyramid).
2. Increase total number of ninpou needed to more accurately match the combined requirements, though at minimal effect without going back to 50.
3. Combine option 1 and 2: Lower S-rank pyramid to 2 S-ranks and slightly raise ninpou number to 30 or 35 to allow for the correct mixture of ninpou styles.

That being said I do not intend to make S/T requirements stricter and in the end it's probably a bit of a moot point and just my personal vexation over the fact that the numbers don't match up well. However it could at least be made clear if the pyramid and 25 jutsu are intended to be separate goals or not (essentially making you require a near 50 total jutsu anyway).

Willoria · Post by **Willoria** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:37 am

Vox and lucent rose skins are missing tons of buttons suddenly.

Post by **Kabu** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:43 am

Bohegeha and Indulgence are as well.

Sanjuro · Post by **Sanjuro** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:26 pm

Same with Zekrom

Valkier · Post by **Valkier** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:28 am

^ I had the same missing buttons all of yesterday (using Zekrom wide), however it seems fine now. Fixed?

Anyway: on the Fuuinjutsu page, where Force Fuuinjutsu are introduced in the first post:

Quote:
Force Fuuinjutsu are Fuuinjutsu that create energy, counteract, and capture energy. These Fuuinjutsu are more offensive, and are most commonly witnessed as Exploding Tags. Force Fuuinjutsu can in many shapes and forms, and are developed for combat.

Ii looks like the highlighted section should read "come in many shapes and forms", instead of can. On a different note (and not an error), the first "energy" in the sentence could be removed if you wish: "Fuuinjutsu that create, counteract, and capture energy" reads better imo.

In the bullet points below that paragraph, we have:

Quote:
Force Fuuinjutsu get larger the more force they are able to store. This means that after a certain point, it is reasonable to carry tags for Force Fuuinjutsu, as they would be excessively large.

I think the highlighted should be in the negative, either "it is not reasonable" or "it isn't".

Below that, in the Charge Fuuinjutsu section:

Quote:
Charge Fuuinjutsu are a rare type of Fuuinjutsu used strictly by [Ninjutsu Specialists]. Charge Fuuinjutsu are used in place of normal ninjutsu, bypassing the need for hand seals. They are powerful in their ability to be set up in advanced, used on the fly, or anywhere in between. Charge Fuuin are extremely powerful, and when combined with out Fuuin types make incredibly potent combinations that can completely alter the course of combat.

Highlighted sections again. "Advanced" should be "advance"; and I guess that "with out" should be "with other"?

Below that again, in the Augment Fuuinjutsu section's bullet points:

Quote:
Augmenting Fuuin consuming chakra when activated, not when written. The fuuin directs and circulates the chakra to sustain the effect.

"Consuming" should be "consume"

The fifth Storage & Force technique:

Quote:
*Fuuinjutsu • Storage Strike
C-Rank Storage & Force Fuuinjutsu
Used in conjunction with storage seals, the user forms the needed hand seals then touches the storage seal causing it to up to three of the objects stored in it simultaneously, as if they were thrown at a strength of 10. The three objects will be released in a small spread, only a few inches apart from each other.

The highlighted section is missing a word. Causing it to expel up to three? Launch?

Not an issue, but a question as it is not mentioned within the Fuuin (or iijutsu) page: Can Storage Fuuinjutsu store organic matter? Could a hunter store away the bones & skin of a dead animal, and would that extend to storing the whole bodies of dead people/defeated ninja? I guess the question is; does storage prevent decay (either by a cessation of time, or by isolation from the conditions that would allow decay)?

Suzuri · Post by **Suzuri** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:50 am

Technically this was noticed by someone else in the cbox a while ago, not me, but I forgot who they were and figured this should be posted either way.

One of the requirements for Kinesis is a bit misguiding.
'Requires 25 Ninjutsu* of the wanted element, with at least 3 S-ranks
Requires 25 Ninjutsu
Requires 25 Control'

*techniques, I assume

The thing is, in order to be able to /use/ S-ranked ninjutsu, one needs at least 35 Ninjutsu, not just 25. Unless I got things wrong.

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:48 pm

"Village Ninja can get henchmen, but they can only use a maximum of 2 slots on henchmen. The first slot is not available until you reach Special Jounin, and the second doesn't become available until you reach Jounin."

I was told by a lead mod that the second one isnt available until Bannin.

viewtopic.php?&t=5899685/1/

Sanjuro · Post by **Sanjuro** » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:32 pm

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1990757&t=5899683 - The spoiler for the concentrations is misspelled. Says Concentrattions

Valkier · Post by **Valkier** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:57 am

Moving these to a new post as they're a different issue from before:

All jutsu on the Aisu clan page are still using feet & inches instead of metres. The B-rank Hypothermia has a prerequisite of 7 control - missed in the update from the old system?

Also, (and thanks go to Kabuto for pointing this out while discussing customs), according to the defensive jutsu rules:

Quote:
Defensive Jutsu are ones that erect protections for the user or others, or are otherwise stable aspects that do no provide and offensive or supplemental purpose. These jutsu erect themselves at a certain speed, and can withstand a certain amount of damage before they break.

The ~Frozen Barrier technique thus requires a speed of creation. Unless its strength gets adjusted, it should form at 5 speed I think.

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:04 am

Can old companion coupons from the last system be cashed in for points or something instead?

WrightJustice · Post by **WrightJustice** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:46 am

Hate to be annoying and bring up custom locked stuff again but chat just revealed just how extra awful it is to me.

Apparently some tai styles are even starting to be custom locked on top of the general B-rank limit which is just plain wrong in my opinion.

I'm not advocating for removal of limits but I'm just not seeing why limiting creativity is being used as one, though now I see why some people are so for it with Supers.
I had not realised that Supers have had their limits completely removed which seems kind of silly to me. I am all for finding ways to make things easier for people but I don't get why Supers don't have some kind of basic element limit like needing 25 jutsu or having a bit of a pyramid first.

That aside I have rated how bad it is in order of most horrible to not so bad:
Taijutsu styles > Iijutsu > Supers/Sensors.

Sensors I can kind of see but I don't get why they're not just limited by you needing the archives first, especially since there's so few anyway and that's how it worked before the revamp (for minds eye anyway). It would still be a small lock of some kind but at least it's more like a key to your door instead of a cell and you can get customs from just going down the route of jutsu instead of specializing.

Supers, as mentioned above, I'm not sure why they even have their basic element pyramid stuff fully removed to begin with but that aside they're basically like any other element and customs should be allowed without specialization. Locking customs isn't even a good trade for removing the other limits; it's trading creativity for balance.

Iijutsu I get as being highly skilful but that shouldn't stop customs, especially if they can be reasoned as taught to them or actually being skilful by having some archives beforehand, heck not all customs are jutsu your character created and are often just the roleplayer made up to fill a void but can easily be noted in character as jutsu not widely used so are not in the main archives.
I personally just don't get the worry about Iijutsu and how some people put them on the same level as supers or other actual top end stuff, they should already have higher ninjutsu and control requires, though if it truly is a problem then why not do something like my sensory idea.
They could easily be limited to needing a certain amount of jutsu or a pyramid before allowing customs or there could be an entirely different limit like taijutsu where you're B-Rank limited instead of custom locked.

As for Taijutsu, I'm not sure why some styles are even popping up as custom locked? They already have the B-Rank limit so custom locked styles make no sense at all. If it was a 8 Gates style or something I see it but even then I would expect such a style would have other restrictions instead of following this custom lock idea.

I have seen arguments on chat but some seem moot and built from wild fear, whilst others are just repeats from Kabu about being "highly skilful" which can also be turned into a moot point since that can be shown in different ways like described above.
Fluffy's point was not wanting people running around with so many style but then he brought up some moot points since certain stuff he mentioned should't be able to be got together in the first place but then again Supers have practically 0 limits so maybe that's one of the problems.

In the end we say we're creative free but it's currently illusionary because certain customs are locked behind certain specializations and despite supposed likelihoods of people going down certain specializations and getting the customs they would've anyway, it still adds that extra need to do so and pushes for it.

Like I said on the chat: It's like telling people there's a choice but then saying they actually have to pick a certain option anyway e.g you can choose not to pick ninjutsu specialization but you want to do customs so you have to.
I dunno if that's the best way to word it but if you're going into Iijutsu then you would expect to be able to do everything on the level of stuff you unlocked rather than a select package of the area you went into, though you might expect to maybe need to level up to the next level of stuff.

The example coming to my mind right now is pizzas like you have all the pizza options available to you and you get to build your custom pizza, which shouldn't be more expensive than similar non-custom pizzas with similar amounts of toppings but it is more expensive to get a bigger pizza.
Using the Iijutsu example you should have your Iijutsu pizza with your different Iijutsu jutsu toppings but you have the option of all the toppings on a certain level of pizza, however if you want t get the extra big/extra good iijutsu pizza level then you need to unlock it.

Anyway, in my mind, the options of levels (e.g. not allowed past B-Rank) is fair since it's going up in power and balance with all the options whereas options of creativity (not allowing customs) not only goes against the freedom to do what you want and one of our things we like to allow but it blocks off specific options in a certain area.

I dunno if I make much sense and there's probably a lot I go on about that could be condensed but that's my thoughts on it, especially after realising it limits companion creativity and doesn't even give companions the option to be creative (they're not even allowed specializations).

Zasadel · Post by **Zasadel** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:34 am

*[Toryu • Dirty Assault]

Has a broken bold tag in its desc.

Zasadel · Post by **Zasadel** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:41 pm

Also, no template for specializations in the New Character Template

Post by **Kabu** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:51 pm

Zasadel:
Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:41 pm
Also, no template for specializations in the New Character Template

This was done intentionally so that nobody would think that it was actually required.

Zasadel · Post by **Zasadel** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:53 pm

Kabu:
Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:51 pm
Zasadel:
Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:41 pm
Also, no template for specializations in the New Character Template
This was done intentionally so that nobody would think that it was actually required.

Would be easier to have it say NOT REQUIRED : , we have new people who dont have it in their app but need it.

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:16 pm

The Jouchaku clan symbol is the Steam Logo....Ya know...The Video game company? xD

SpoilerShow

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:32 pm

The Old pyramid chart is outdated (says 10 D and C) I have updated it to the new standards

Suzuri · Post by **Suzuri** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:43 am

I has annoyed me since before the revamp, but the Other Country Descriptions in the Other Countries forum only include Tea Country. The full Other Country descriptions are placed in the Countries Guide in the Discussion Forum.

Also the biome and numerical map on that page no longer expand, and at that small size it's basically impossible to interpret them.

Also, I agree with Wright.

Servant · Post by **Servant** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:27 pm

The companion page in the rules, particularly the pets post at the bottom where it has a few general rules. One bullet says "Pets cannot break above 45 in any stats under any circumstances." and then two bullets later it says "While pets do not got the ability to have specializations, pets do gain the ability to have at least 1 stat at 50."

See the problem?

AlbinoLEPRECHAN · Post by **AlbinoLEPRECHAN** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:39 am

Ninjutsu Rules in this page, under Ninjutsu. It says a B-rank offensive Ninjutsu has 20 points to distribute 2 times. Then goes on to say that an even strength and speed can have 20 strength and 20 speed. Yet the chart under shows B rank at 40.

FluffyGinja · Post by **FluffyGinja** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:28 am

This is from the companion thread, right at the bottom of spirits.

Quote:
Assuming it remains within range of the owner, Spirits can act in place of the owner, go on missions, do socials on their own, and generally complete point redeeming topics. These topics still grant full renown to the owner, but only half the points.

I believe it would only be half points.

Post by **Ace Trainer** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:43 am

WrightJustice:
Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:36 am
Sorry! The Wit is in the example spoiler under the list of the 10 concentrations: viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1980268&t=5899683

Corrected, 1 point.

Kabu:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:03 am
The Store doesn't mention CP transfers being 2:1

Corrected, 1 point.

Phineas Forge:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:25 am
Quote:
*[Yoshin • No Escape]
A-Ranked Kenjutsu Maneuver
Prerequisite: 30 Wit, 30 Taijutsu
Says wit in the prerequisites.

Corrected, 2 points.

Fawnjuro2016:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:18 pm
Youton has anmelting
should be a melting and also two words.
viewtopic.php?&t=5940570/1/

Corrected, 1 point

Fawnjuro2016:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:26 pm
for example, a jutsu that turns causes you to go into a blind fury when you're sustain a certain level of injury would be considered a Discipline

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1990757&t=5899683

Not seeing the error

Jinan B:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:31 pm
Quote:
*Fading Mist Technique]
D-Rank Ninjutsu
After performing the correct hand seals, the user can control the transparency of the mist to become much more lucid or clear in a 2x2x2m area for one post. If this is used on a blanket of mist with another's chakra within it, it requires a higher control stat than the caster. This increased visibility lasts 3 posts.
That's from the Mist Archives. Is it 3 posts or one post?

Also

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=2002459&t=5937022

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=2003169&t=5937022

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=2003909&t=5937022 (don't know if it was sorted elsewhere tbh)

These three links were never replied to on the thread. (there might have been more, or some may have been sorted elsewhere, or some weren't supposed to be answered [there were a few like this which i knew i should leave out btw], but I think I've got it to some degree of accuracy)

Phineas Forge:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:50 pm
viewtopic.php?&t=5899683/1/#new

The spoiler for the new taijutsu concentrations has concentrations misspelled. Also, the Heavenly Body Control concentration says "with less than 35 Taijutsu, Strength and Speed". The 'and' implying you'd need all three stats to be at 35, but later when describing the true-heavenly taijutsu (which I'm assuming is what the concentration is referring to, due to the description and specialist requirement), it says "These jutsu have the same stat requirements (+35 Strength or Speed depending on the effect)". The 'or' in this statement and the 'and' from the concentration don't seem to go together.

You require all 3 to get access to them, but specific jutsu may only actually require 40 speed an 25 str.

Saerieve · Post by **Saerieve** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:51 am

Jouchaku Clan page: viewtopic.php?&t=5937134/1/#new

All of these jutsu are missing durations:?

~Yugeton • Dense Cloud
~Yugeton • Ascending to a Flash Sale
~Yugeton • Steam Profile
~Yugeton • Burn Simulator 2016
~Yugeton • Steam Cloud
~Yugeton • Avatar of Steam
~Yugeton • Steam Wave
~Yugeton • Heavenly Flash Sales (Don't know if this one needs a duration but how would one use a heavy repeating crossbow (formed from steam?!?) while also holding a hand seal??)
~Yugeton • Obliterate
~Yugeton • Steam Ghost

I see the clan symbol has already been mentioned, but it is also missing history.

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:08 pm

"when you're sustain"

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:09 pm

Fawnjuro2016:
Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:08 pm
"when you're sustain"

Ace Trainer:
Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:43 am
Not seeing the error

Sanjuro · Post by **Sanjuro** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:05 am

viewtopic.php?&t=5899688/1/#new

Under the Stat Training rules

Quote:
Stat training, though is a bit different. You are only allowed to stat train 50 times. After that, you are only able to earn stats via [Plot Boards]. You cannott combine stat trainings into a single word count; for example: having a 1500 word tai training and 1500 word speed training, and just training for 3000 words. Each training must meet the count separately. Stat trainings are always 1500 words in length, though a moderator may request that you add additional information if they feel it was not adequate enough. Companions follow the same guide lines for stat training, but can only stat training 25 times

cannot
train

Servant · Post by **Servant** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:36 am

The link at the bottom of the Swarms page goes to the old rules portion of the specialized stat page.

Post by **Ace Trainer** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:46 pm

Zasadel:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:59 pm
No age requirements posted for each rank.

Used to be ; Genin cannot be younger than 12. Chuunin cannot be younger than 15 . Jounin cannot be younger than 18 .

Think its going to be left to the OOCs.

Fawnjuro2016:
Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:02 pm
"Debuffing at a incurs a +2 rank boost, and requirement for the jutsu. So debuffing at a range would be minimum A-rank, and would only do -3. The only exception is Continuous debuffs."

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1990905&t=5921285

Corrected, 2 points.

Suzuri:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:29 am
Rules subforum, Companions page:

'Spirits can act in place of the owner, go on missions, do socials on their own, and generally complete point redeeming topics. These topics still grant full renown to the owner, but only half the points.'

I thought we'd removed renown?

Corrected, 1 points.

Sanjuro:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:04 am
Shoshiki have a broken [/list] tag in Requirements.

Quote:
~[Glass Element • Glass Field
C-Rank Ninjutsu
After forming the necessary hand seals, the user will begin 5 spitting up baseball sized balls of glass over the course of the next 2 posts, and spitting them out at 14 speed. While they only impact with 1 strength, they each explode over a 2m area with 1 strength, throwing shards of glass all over the ground. This can make it harder to fight, and more dangerous to be thrown to the ground.
Missing a ] at the end of the jutsu name. The phrasing is odd. Should be the user will begin spitting up 5 baseball sized balls. Also, since this is a multiple projectile technique, it should be down-ranked to D-Rank numbers.

Quote:
~[Glass Element • Sharp Fist]
C-Rank Ninjutsu
After forming the needed hand seals and their arms with chakra, the user will cause the glass to come toward a around their arms, gathering the shards at 5 speed. This covers the arms in shards of glass that are able to cut opponents with the users strength when struck, and protects them with up to 15 strength.
Should be more like: After forming the needed hand seals and coating their arms with chakra, the user will cause nearby shards of glass to come towards their arms, gathering the shards at 5 speed.

Quote:
~[Glass Element • Glass Clone]
B-Rank Ninjutsu
After forming the needed hand seals the user will spit up a large glob of glass that will form into a clear clone of the user. The clone cannot per form any jutsu and shatters when destroyed. The clone has the following stats:
Taijutsu: 7
Stamina: 7
Strength: 7
Speed: 7
B-Rank Clones get 45 Points to Distribute, and because Garaton shatters naturally, this doesn't need to be down-ranked.

Quote:
~[Glass Element • House of Mirrors]
A-Rank Ninjutsu
Forming the necessary hand seals, the user will focus chakra on a 30m by 30m area in front of them, then thrust their hands upwards. Along the perimeter of the designated area walls of glass will form at 20 speed, then within the area, hundreds of mirrors 2ft wide by 7 ft tall will form within it at 20 speed, creating a maze of mirrors. It can be very difficult to navigate because of how the glass reflects the victim everywhere they go. While the large walls on the perimeter have 30 strength, the small mirrors have only 10 strength, but when broken they shatter towards whatever destroyed them, typically covering them in glass, which can cause a lot of damage over time.
A-Rank Ninjutsu only get 50 points to distribute, this is using 80.

Corrected, 5 points

Phineas Forge:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:24 am
The chuunin exams may need to be updated for the new system. Currently, it says Konoha genin go in teams of three and face a a single chuunin (or occasionally two chuunin). The problem with this is that in order for the genin to be taking the exam, they'd need enough stats to be chuunin (80), meaning they'd be on similar footing as the chuunin, except they'd be in a team of 3 as opposed to a single guy. Hardly seems fair...

You could probably fix it by saying "an experienced chuunin", but I'll leave the fixes up to you guys.

I'm guessing the other exams may need adjustments, but I'm not sure.

Addressed w/ the OOCs

....:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:30 pm
someone on the skype chat suggested a subforum just for test threads.

also separate subs for things like trainings, plot boards, etc. might be helpful

Done, 1 point

....:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:00 pm
viewtopic.php?&t=5921285/1/#new

The continuous debuffs doesn't give a duration for C-ranks. though I assume it's supposed to be 2 posts since 1 wouldn't make sense and Bs are 3.

....:
Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:27 pm
~~I think clans should have their own subforum, otherwise they're gonna lost among the characters. or maybe pin them so they're readily visible~~

nvm, apparently that's been done since the last time I looked lol

The Ishiguro aren't pinned though. viewtopic.php?&t=5937079/1/#new

Salt (and other skills with passive effects) should probably include the passive effects in the jutsu, for the sake of convenience. it'd be a pain for people to have to bring up the archives every time one of these techniques is used, and can be fixed with like 10 minutes of copy/pasting

WrightJustice:
Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:43 pm
I think I found another mistake in the stat debuff rules:
"Debuffing at a incurs a +2 rank boost, and requirement for the jutsu."
My best guess is that means at range based on the rest of the rules under the static table.

Jinan B:
Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:16 pm
Quote:
The rate of repairing itself is 1/3rd the speed of the technique rounded up, so a Chiton defense that manifests at 10 speed would repair itself at 3 speed when damaged. This only works for the length of the technique, so maintaining the damage to Chiton until the jutsu expires will stop it from regrowing.
In the Chiton Archives there seems to be some incorrect maths. 10/3 rounded up would be 4, not three. Is it a simple calculation error, or should it be rounded down?

Fixed, 2 points

Izanagi:
Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:54 pm
The Enkouten explanation of Youton is inconsistent.

Quote:
Youton, also known as Lava Release, is an elemental fusion that combines Doton and Katon to make a super heated lava based style. Youton flows like a fluid, but has a semi-solid quality to it that is further refined by its super-heated nature. Youton melts in all its techniques, making it a powerful offensive and defensive ability. Enkouton are resistant to Youton for short periods of time, but can be just as damaged by it as a normal person, even by their own techniques, if exposed for too long. The melting quality of Youton burns at such an high temperature that it tends to encapsulate everything in it's path. Despite this, however, weaker youton jutsu struggle to sustain themselves and tend to only give weaker burns to those who come in contact with it. Youton follow the same burn strengths as katon jutsu, but have been known to dull weapons, or even melt weapons at high levels, and flow through defensive jutsu. More importantly, the melting power of youton means that youton techniques passively reduce the strength of anything they're in contact with by 1/4th their strength per post after contact. This means a 20 strength youton technique would do 20 strength of damage at impact, then melt at 5 strength per post until it hardened. This allows youton jutsu to substantially weaken defenses over time.
And yet in the archives each technique is rather weak in burning power, regardless if it's D-Rank or S-rank each jutsu states that it can only cause 1st degree burns. Here are a couple examples.

*Youton • Kick Up
D-rank Ninjutsu
After performing a string of handseals, the user will kick one of their legs at the ground, skimming their foot just over the surfrace of the earth. Chakra at the bottom of the foot converts the ground into lava, splashing forward up to 5m with a speed equal to the strength of the user and an impact strength of 5. This jutsu causes 1st degree burns. The lava hardens over the span of 3 posts, reducing the strength of impacted objects by 1 strength per post.

*Youton • Improved Lava Bomb
C-rank Ninjutsu
After performing a string of handseals, the user will form a sphere of lava the size of a tennis ball in one hand. The sphere can be thrown and explodes on impact, with a blast radius of 2x2x2m and a strength of 10. This jutsu causes 1st degree burns. The lava hardens over the span of 4 posts, reducing the strength of impacted objects by 2 strength per post.

*Youton • Greater Eruption
B-rank Ninjutsu
After performing a string of handseals, the user will cover the surface of their body with Youton chakra. Physical contact with the user triggers the technique, causing lava to burst outwards from the point of contact with a speed of 10 and an impact strength of 30. This jutsu causes 1st degree burns. The lava hardens over the span of 6 posts, reducing the strength of impacted objects by 7 strength per post. The jutsu lasts until triggered or for 6 posts, at which point it dissipates harmlessly.

*Youton • Major Wall
A-rank Ninjutsu
After performing a string of handseals, the user focuses chakra through their feet and into the surrounding earth. This causes a circular wall of lava to form directly around the user, shooting upwards from the ground with a speed of 35 and an impact strength of 15. This does very little to impede incoming projectiles (it does, however, dull them), but is good for keeping back taijutsu users. This jutsu causes 1st degree burns on impact. The lava hardens over the span of 8 posts, reducing the strength of impacted objects by 8 strength per post.

*Youton • Supreme Eruption
S-rank Ninjutsu
After performing a string of handseals, the user will cover the surface of their body with Youton chakra. Physical contact with the user triggers the technique, causing lava to burst outwards from the point of contact with a speed of 25 and an impact strength of 45. This jutsu causes 1st degree burns. The lava hardens over the span of 10 posts, reducing the strength of impacted objects by 11 strength per post. The jutsu lasts until triggered or for 10 posts, at which point it dissipates harmlessly.

As you can see this remains true for literally every jutsu in the archive.

Fixed, 3 points

WrightJustice:
Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:05 pm
Form 1 of Hell genma:
"Additionally, the hosts skill will begin to lose color."

1 point, fixed

Phineas Forge:
Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:53 pm
viewtopic.php?&t=5898688/1/

The companion template which is pinned in the registration section mentions three spoilers but there are only two.

Yeah, tracking that.

Post by **Kabu** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:40 pm

Shoshiki clan page:

Quote:
~[Glass Element • Glass Clone]
B-Rank Ninjutsu
After forming the needed hand seals the user will spit up a large glob of glass that will form into a clear clone of the user. The clone cannot per form any jutsu and shatters when destroyed. The clone has the following stats:

Missing stats

Checkmate · Post by **Checkmate** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:39 am

Space/Time: viewtopic.php?&t=5934679/1/#new

*Space-Time Style • The Realm
A-Rank Anchoring Ninjutsu
First created by After performing the correct hand seals

Willoria · Post by **Willoria** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:19 pm

Topic grading template is open to reply to, rather than being closed.

viewtopic.php?&t=5898690/

Willoria · Post by **Willoria** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:00 pm

There doesn't seem to be an area to post/move companions that haven't been paid for. Missing or is there another set up for this?

Checkmate · Post by **Checkmate** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:52 pm

viewtopic.php?&t=5937604/1/

*Fuuinjutsu • Storage Strike
C-Rank Storage & Force Fuuinjutsu
Used in conjunction with storage seals, the user forms the needed hand seals then touches the storage seal causing it to Missing something here up to three of the objects stored in it simultaneously, as if they were thrown at a strength of 10. The three objects will be released in a small spread, only a few inches apart from each other.

*Fuuinjutsu • Five Element Seal
A-Rank Augment Fuuinjutu]su

Suzuri · Post by **Suzuri** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:34 am

A little suggestion. A recent situation (would rather not necro that exact thread, even if it wasn't that long ago) has made me realize that this forum doesn't have an 'advertisements' forum, in which people could advertise other roleplaying forums. Ideally guests would be allowed to post, but I have no idea how strong zetaboards is against spammers.

WrightJustice · Post by **WrightJustice** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:40 am

There is one here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/Naruto_Saigen_ ... m/1084930/
Though it's not exactly prominent and hidden within the member section.

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:51 pm

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=2004530&t=5940570

Lava cooling post durations: "Requirements over 30 for S-rank can extend this length as well."

Shouldn't it be over 35?

Sia · Post by **Sia** » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:01 pm

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1980268&t=5899683

Still lists concentrations for taijutsu as being different styles.

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Jinrai Asuka - Kumo Genin			#FCD856
Arashiyama, Kyou - Kumo Genin			#5EDDC1
Kaguya Asuna - Kiri Sp. Jounin	To Overcome Adversity	SSM	#005BBF
Nakiya Ryoko - Kiri Genin		HHD	#E28C05
Ibakuro Kureha - Konoha Chuunin			#AA47BA
Yamanaka Inokara - Konoha Jounin	The Biggest Dreamer		#28C4D8
Meiyo Hajime - Konoha Genin			#FC9E49
Shinsen Koyuki - Suna Chuunin			#ADAFAA
Hizashi Rika - Suna Sp. Jounin	The Fate Line	~~SoS~~	#F43F4F
Kamizuru Yoshiko - Iwa Jounin	On Broken Wings		#9BAFC4
Enkouten Kaede - Iwa Genin			#FC70BA
Fukusha Maho - Iwa Genin			#A3C1C9\|Orangered
Yuu - D Ranked Heart Empire			#F4547C
Kinoko Kurone - Heart Empire Natsubushi			#00C993
Gamora, Teruko - Kemuri Genin			#6689CC
Akaiyah Hikari - D Ranked Minor Country			#56C9C1\|#00B760

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Nakajima Eiko - Kumo Jounin	Sparkling Daydream		#009E60\|#DD5900
Jinrai Asuka - Kumo Genin			#FCD856
Arashiyama, Kyou - Kumo Genin			#5EDDC1
Kaguya Asuna - Kiri Sp. Jounin	To Overcome Adversity	SSM	#005BBF
Nakiya Ryoko - Kiri Genin		HHD	#E28C05
Ibakuro Kureha - Konoha Chuunin			#AA47BA
Yamanaka Inokara - Konoha Jounin	The Biggest Dreamer		#28C4D8
Meiyo Hajime - Konoha Genin			#FC9E49
Shinsen Koyuki - Suna Chuunin			#ADAFAA
Hizashi Rika - Suna Sp. Jounin	The Fate Line	~~SoS~~	#F43F4F
Kamizuru Yoshiko - Iwa Jounin	On Broken Wings		#9BAFC4
Enkouten Kaede - Iwa Genin			#FC70BA
Fukusha Maho - Iwa Genin			#A3C1C9\|Orangered
Yuu - D Ranked Heart Empire			#F4547C
Kinoko Kurone - Heart Empire Natsubushi			#00C993
Gamora, Teruko - Kemuri Genin			#6689CC
Akaiyah Hikari - D Ranked Minor Country			#56C9C1\|#00B760

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Higurashi, Kazuo	Iwagakure	Special Jounin	#FFC40C
Akechi, Gendo	Cold Country	C-Rank	pink

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Higurashi, Kazuo	Iwagakure	Special Jounin	#FFC40C
Akechi, Gendo	Cold Country	C-Rank	pink

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Nakajima Eiko - Kumo Jounin	Sparkling Daydream		#009E60\|#DD5900
Jinrai Asuka - Kumo Genin			#FCD856
Arashiyama, Kyou - Kumo Genin			#5EDDC1
Kaguya Asuna - Kiri Sp. Jounin	To Overcome Adversity	SSM	#005BBF
Nakiya Ryoko - Kiri Genin		HHD	#E28C05
Ibakuro Kureha - Konoha Chuunin			#AA47BA
Yamanaka Inokara - Konoha Jounin	The Biggest Dreamer		#28C4D8
Meiyo Hajime - Konoha Genin			#FC9E49
Shinsen Koyuki - Suna Chuunin			#ADAFAA
Hizashi Rika - Suna Sp. Jounin	The Fate Line	~~SoS~~	#F43F4F
Kamizuru Yoshiko - Iwa Jounin	On Broken Wings		#9BAFC4
Enkouten Kaede - Iwa Genin			#FC70BA
Fukusha Maho - Iwa Genin			#A3C1C9\|Orangered
Yuu - D Ranked Heart Empire			#F4547C
Kinoko Kurone - Heart Empire Natsubushi			#00C993
Gamora, Teruko - Kemuri Genin			#6689CC
Akaiyah Hikari - D Ranked Minor Country			#56C9C1\|#00B760

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Sadame Juusha [color=#2888BD]	Imuka Makumi [color=#Fc0fc0]
Yamanaka Yaya [color=#3a6e38]	-

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