Problems, Requests and Mistakes

[Gothmer]

The history should include any pertinent details of the characters past and upbringing. At a minimum the history should include the characters life before the academy, when they graduate the academy, and each type they ranked up. Some moderators may ask you to expand on the history if they do not think its detailed enough. Additionally, histories must be approved by the Village Leader.

Found this little baby at the end of the character creation guide, pertaining to the history section of an app. I believe it should be each time they ranked up, not type.

*Doton • Birth of a New Mountain
S-Rank Ninjutsu
Myth says this technique was said to have been used by some of the worlds most skilled earth style shinobi over the course of that past eight-hundred years to create and shape the mountains of today. After performing the correct hand seals the user will hold the final seal and become immobile as they begin to form a mountain beneath them. Should the user break the last seal for any reason, the mountain will stop forming. The mountain forms with a strength of 35, making this extremely devastating to terrain and capable of rewriting entire maps. The mountain forms at a rate of 7 meters for length and 3 meters for height for every 10 points of control the user has per post, growing out from the user which is it's epicenter. This technique can be used for a maximum of 5 posts, however it is very rare for anyone to hold such a taxing technique for such an extended period of time, due to it taking the full amount of stamina from the technique. The mountain formed has a single peak, the rest of it being a ridge.

So, I was crunching some numbers. Even at 50 control (which would equate out to 75 meters tall), I don't think this could be called a mountain. Much more reasonable to call it a hill. Not sure if it was an error in the sizing, or just a hyperbole in name. Either way, it bothers me, so I figured I would mention.

[Jinan B]

Basic Jutsu seems to hold to pre mod stat requirements

Also:

*[Basic Jutsu • Kai Release]
D-Ranked Ninjutsu
A rather simple technique that allows the user to escape from a genjutsu. The stat requirements for this technique can be found in the genjutsu rules.

I'm not sure whether or not this is intentional, but the link to genjutsu rules is no-coded, which i imagine would make it harder for users to find the post that explains the jutsu, especially since basic jutsu aren't expected to be posted on a character sheet.

Edit: I haven't no-coded that kai release here, but the problem is there.

Edit the second: Samurai Saber

When a Samurai reaches a certain level of skill with their blade, They become able to force their 'spirit' into the blade and shape it as they will to allow a Kenjutsu user a greater range of attacks in comparison to normal fighters. While Shinobi recognize this as 'Chakra Flow', Samurai who master it prefer to call it 'spirit energy' and think of it as a representation of the bond between them and their blade.
Requires one Ninjutsu Concentration slot
Requires Taijutsu Specialization
Requires Samurai Sabre Technique before other jutsu
Requires PC Samurai to have learned the Basic Ninjutsu techniques

I would assume that it needs a taijutsu concentration instead of a ninjutsu concentration, seeing as it is a tai style, and needs the user to be a tai specialist

Edit the third: The last one may have been intentional, it just strikes me as odd that a ninjutsu concentration slot would be necessary for this instead of a tai concentration and the basic ninjutsu.

[Tyr]

Empathy Genma; Heaven Genma

These two have Wit still, instead of Instinct.

[Nafan~]

Empathy Genma; Heaven Genma

These two have Wit still, instead of Instinct.

Corrected, PM NSRP with a link to an accepted character and this post to receive 4 CP.

The history should include any pertinent details of the characters past and upbringing. At a minimum the history should include the characters life before the academy, when they graduate the academy, and each type they ranked up. Some moderators may ask you to expand on the history if they do not think its detailed enough. Additionally, histories must be approved by the Village Leader.

Found this little baby at the end of the character creation guide, pertaining to the history section of an app. I believe it should be each time they ranked up, not type.

*Doton • Birth of a New Mountain
S-Rank Ninjutsu
Myth says this technique was said to have been used by some of the worlds most skilled earth style shinobi over the course of that past eight-hundred years to create and shape the mountains of today. After performing the correct hand seals the user will hold the final seal and become immobile as they begin to form a mountain beneath them. Should the user break the last seal for any reason, the mountain will stop forming. The mountain forms with a strength of 35, making this extremely devastating to terrain and capable of rewriting entire maps. The mountain forms at a rate of 7 meters for length and 3 meters for height for every 10 points of control the user has per post, growing out from the user which is it's epicenter. This technique can be used for a maximum of 5 posts, however it is very rare for anyone to hold such a taxing technique for such an extended period of time, due to it taking the full amount of stamina from the technique. The mountain formed has a single peak, the rest of it being a ridge.

So, I was crunching some numbers. Even at 50 control (which would equate out to 75 meters tall), I don't think this could be called a mountain. Much more reasonable to call it a hill. Not sure if it was an error in the sizing, or just a hyperbole in name. Either way, it bothers me, so I figured I would mention.

Corrected and Hyperbole.
PM NSRP with a link to an accepted character and this post to receive 1 CP.

Basic Jutsu seems to hold to pre mod stat requirements

Also:

*[Basic Jutsu • Kai Release]
D-Ranked Ninjutsu
A rather simple technique that allows the user to escape from a genjutsu. The stat requirements for this technique can be found in the genjutsu rules.

I'm not sure whether or not this is intentional, but the link to genjutsu rules is no-coded, which i imagine would make it harder for users to find the post that explains the jutsu, especially since basic jutsu aren't expected to be posted on a character sheet.

Edit: I haven't no-coded that kai release here, but the problem is there.

Edit the second: Samurai Saber

When a Samurai reaches a certain level of skill with their blade, They become able to force their 'spirit' into the blade and shape it as they will to allow a Kenjutsu user a greater range of attacks in comparison to normal fighters. While Shinobi recognize this as 'Chakra Flow', Samurai who master it prefer to call it 'spirit energy' and think of it as a representation of the bond between them and their blade.
Requires one Ninjutsu Concentration slot
Requires Taijutsu Specialization
Requires Samurai Sabre Technique before other jutsu
Requires PC Samurai to have learned the Basic Ninjutsu techniques

I would assume that it needs a taijutsu concentration instead of a ninjutsu concentration, seeing as it is a tai style, and needs the user to be a tai specialist

Edit the third: The last one may have been intentional, it just strikes me as odd that a ninjutsu concentration slot would be necessary for this instead of a tai concentration and the basic ninjutsu.

Please explain? and Intentional. This is so that samurai or those that c/p the jutsu onto an application receive the link on their character, rather than the words 'genjutsu rules' with no link.

[Jinan B]

Please explain? and Intentional. This is so that samurai or those that c/p the jutsu onto an application receive the link on their character, rather than the words 'genjutsu rules' with no link.

With the basic jutsu point, i was referring to how the stats did not seem to change to emulate the stat cap raise in some of them (Acts of tree climbing and water walking if i remember correctly)

Thanks for the clarification on genjutsu rules, i forgot that samurai had to learn basic jutsu separately. The original post was due to the fact that i have seen mods request that basic jutsu be taken off character sheets (ninja char sheet apps) and believed that basic jutsu did not need to be c/p(ed) into apps, which made me wonder if the link was supposed to be there as well, as it would be where most people go to check the jutsu.

Edit: there also seems to be two kinds of member classes, which seems to be split between pre flip and post flip members, don't know what up with that.

[Servant]

Over the years, the Awai grew into a large clan, respected for its fusion element and doujutsu.

First sentence in the last paragraph of the history. Considering there's no other mention of a doujutsu, I'm assuming it should be removed.

[Jinan B]

*Mist Subjugation
A-rank Ninjutsu
Prerequisite: 9 Control, 9 Ninjutsu
This technique may only be used on one who has spent 2 or more posts within one of the user's mist jutsu. After performing the required hand seals, the user will severely thicken the area around the target, which will reduce their speed by -3 points. If the target remains within the jutsu for a post after that, the mist they are breathing will suddenly coalesce into water in their lungs. This affects people differently depending on their stamina:
1-5 Stamina: They drown unless aided within 4 posts.
5-15 Stamina: They are incapacitated within 2 posts and knocked unconscious.
15+ Stamina: They experience pain and irritation in their lungs due to the water's presence, similar to being stabbed in the chest, but they were able to expel it quickly. Causing a -9 in stamina.

The stat requirements for this jutsu seem to be based on the old system, seeing as you'd need 25 ninjutsu to even use an A rank jutsu.

*Thick Mist
C-rank Ninjutsu
While inside the mist, the user will perform the correct seals and clasp their hands to initiate the jutsu. The water will increase and substantially grow in thickness. This will make anything that enters or is within the mist experience -3 so long as they are inside it. This technique lasts 4 posts.

-3 Speed?

Edit: Almost forgot, Here is the link

Edit the second: Here

The size of the explosion grows by 5m per 5 str. (2str explosion over 1m,5 str explosion over 5m, 9 str explosion over 5m, 15str explosion over 15m and so on.) This method directly weaken the jutsu to give it explosive power.

The maths doesn't seem to add up here, 10 str over 10m?

[ChihayaKohai]

Just a request; if anyone could link me the cbox that would be great. My computer's being stupid and I can't see it at the bottom, or find it on the webz. Thanks.

[Jinan B]

Just a request; if anyone could link me the cbox that would be great. My computer's being stupid and I can't see it at the bottom, or find it on the webz. Thanks.

Here you go

[Zasadel]

You can take away 2 point to distribute from the jutsu, to add 1 point of explosive power to the explosion. A b-rank jutsu with 40 points to distribute, could take away 6 points, to make the jutsu explode with 6 strength.

- This needs to be changes to 3 strength.

[Sia]

nvm

[Gothmer]

*[Medicinal Style • Wound Cleanse]
D-rank Taijutsu Discipline
The user knows how to use sterile water or alochol to clean out a wound, destroying any bacteria in the would to prevent infection.



From the arts of medicine. It should be Alcohol.

[7eleven]

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1988106&t=5915743

the supersextensions genma still references storm

[Sia]

*[Puppetry Style • Initiate Puppetry Technique]
C-Rank Ninjutsu
The Puppetry Technique is a Ninjutsu technique used by puppeteers. By releasing chakra from their tenketsu, the puppeteer is able to release chakra strings from their finger. These strings are able to move a max of X times 2 meters away, where X is equal to the puppeteer’s control stat. This jutsu allows the puppeteer to attach their chakra strings to inanimate, chakra-less objects at a speed of 2. While an inanimate object is being controlled, it’s treated as if it has a speed equal to the average of the puppeteer’s taijutsu and control.




The last sentence mentions a speed of 2, and i was just curious if that was intentional or not since thats the speed it previously had.

[Sia]

viewtopic.php?&t=5915743/1/

"The Etaigenma, commonly referred to as the Basics Genma, is the a Genma sealed away"

[FluffyGinja]

In this form, the hosts red chakra pulsates from their body, move red spikes like the ones on their elbows will form on their arms and back. Additionally, the hosts skill will begin to lose color. The aura in this form is fairly malleable, able to stretch and manipulate itself in a manner to create shapes, but must remain somewhat humanoid in overall composure.

This is from Hell genma, form 1, I believe you mean more red spikes

[Sia]

I have a special weapon on a character that moves at a speed of 8 in the old system and I need to know what that translates to for the new one. <:

[FluffyGinja]

Earth Genma personality: A somewhat malicious being, he doesn'yt have much faith in humans

Doesn't,not doesn'yt

[Sia]

"Additionally, unless you take a [Specialization], you cannot have a stat go above 45. "


viewtopic.php?&t=5899078/1/#new


Makes it seem like you can still get that ninth concentration since thatd be 45

[Amy]

Please explain? and Intentional. This is so that samurai or those that c/p the jutsu onto an application receive the link on their character, rather than the words 'genjutsu rules' with no link.

With the basic jutsu point, i was referring to how the stats did not seem to change to emulate the stat cap raise in some of them (Acts of tree climbing and water walking if i remember correctly)

Thanks for the clarification on genjutsu rules, i forgot that samurai had to learn basic jutsu separately. The original post was due to the fact that i have seen mods request that basic jutsu be taken off character sheets (ninja char sheet apps) and believed that basic jutsu did not need to be c/p(ed) into apps, which made me wonder if the link was supposed to be there as well, as it would be where most people go to check the jutsu.

Edit: there also seems to be two kinds of member classes, which seems to be split between pre flip and post flip members, don't know what up with that.

The jutsu will be edited to reflect new stats. What do you mean member classes?
Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

Over the years, the Awai grew into a large clan, respected for its fusion element and doujutsu.

First sentence in the last paragraph of the history. Considering there's no other mention of a doujutsu, I'm assuming it should be removed.

Doujutsu is listed in the general information as well so I believe that is intentional. Fixed
Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

You can take away 2 point to distribute from the jutsu, to add 1 point of explosive power to the explosion. A b-rank jutsu with 40 points to distribute, could take away 6 points, to make the jutsu explode with 6 strength.

- This needs to be changes to 3 strength.

Fixed
Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

*[Medicinal Style • Wound Cleanse]
D-rank Taijutsu Discipline
The user knows how to use sterile water or alochol to clean out a wound, destroying any bacteria in the would to prevent infection.



From the arts of medicine. It should be Alcohol.

Fixed Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

*[Puppetry Style • Initiate Puppetry Technique]
C-Rank Ninjutsu
The Puppetry Technique is a Ninjutsu technique used by puppeteers. By releasing chakra from their tenketsu, the puppeteer is able to release chakra strings from their finger. These strings are able to move a max of X times 2 meters away, where X is equal to the puppeteer’s control stat. This jutsu allows the puppeteer to attach their chakra strings to inanimate, chakra-less objects at a speed of 2. While an inanimate object is being controlled, it’s treated as if it has a speed equal to the average of the puppeteer’s taijutsu and control.




The last sentence mentions a speed of 2, and i was just curious if that was intentional or not since thats the speed it previously had.

Fixed. Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

viewtopic.php?&t=5915743/1/

"The Etaigenma, commonly referred to as the Basics Genma, is the a Genma sealed away"

Fixed. Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

In this form, the hosts red chakra pulsates from their body, move red spikes like the ones on their elbows will form on their arms and back. Additionally, the hosts skill will begin to lose color. The aura in this form is fairly malleable, able to stretch and manipulate itself in a manner to create shapes, but must remain somewhat humanoid in overall composure.

This is from Hell genma, form 1, I believe you mean more red spikes

Fixed. Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

I have a special weapon on a character that moves at a speed of 8 in the old system and I need to know what that translates to for the new one. <:

Since there's no direct conversion of stats I suggest changing it to what you think fits and it will be addressed when you post your character for registration - just make sure to list it as a change

Earth Genma personality: A somewhat malicious being, he doesn'yt have much faith in humans

Doesn't,not doesn'yt

Fixed Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

"Additionally, unless you take a [Specialization], you cannot have a stat go above 45. "


viewtopic.php?&t=5899078/1/#new


Makes it seem like you can still get that ninth concentration since thatd be 45

I'm not seeing what you quoted in that thread

viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1988106&t=5915743

the supersextensions genma still references storm

Fixed. Pm NSRP to receive 2 points.

[Sia]

collapsed for space

i meant this thread: viewtopic.php?&t=5899079/1/#new


and how much payout do we get for the fixes?

[Ace Trainer]

It specifically says that you can only get 8 concentrations, so im not worried about changing that chart.

[Jinan B]

What do you mean member classes?

If you look at the list of people on the site in the last 60 minutes, and you see the colour key below that (where it says apprentices in its colour, members, Lead moderator, etc). Members is there twice, if you click on the link to each of the 2 "members" lists. One list seems to be made of users who joined before the flip, whilst the other made of users who joined after.

[Valkier]

6) Roleplaying on NSRP has the following quotes:

Characters Involved: [url=www.google.com]Character, Joe[/url], [url=www.bing.com]Character, Tom[/url]
Organization: None
Plot Board Description: Character Joe and Character Tom would like to hunt down a [[url=www.amazon.com]This[/url]] bandit clan, and it's 4 members, 3 C-rank members and a B-rank. Should be B-rank plot board imo. We'll be collecting each of their bodies in the topics. And will be having MemberLando directing the stories for us.
Progress: N/A

Characters Involved: [url=www.google.com]Character, Joe[/url], [url=www.bing.com]Character, Tom[/url]
Organization: None
Plot Board Description: Character Joe and Character Tom would like to hunt down a [[url=www.amazon.com]This[/url]] bandit clan, and it's 4 members, 3 C-rank members and a B-rank. Should be B-rank plot board imo. We'll be collecting each of their bodies in the topics. And will be having MemberLando directing the stories for us.
Progress: [url=www.msn.com]Topic 1[/url]: 5
[url=www.bestbuy.com]Topic 2[/url] : 4
[url=www.pizzahut.com]Topic 3[/url] : 5
[url=www.dominos.com]Topic 4[/url] : 6

Rewarded 20 Stat Points

In each we have the line "would like to hunt down a This bandit clan", ignoring the coding. Should be "would like to hunt down [url=www.link.com/]this[/url] bandit clan"

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4) Concentrations, Abilities and Jutsu Types, end of the first post under Important Notes Regarding Concentration & Abilities; in the third bullet-point, "catagories" should be "categories".

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In the same thread (Concs, abilities, jutsu types), in the second post (genjutsu), in the bullet points under "types of genjutsu" we have the line "The strength required to break out of the illusion is equal to the requirements to perform the genjutsu. For example, a C-rank genjutsu requires 12 in genjutsu to perform, meaning it would only take 12 strength to break out of. S-rank jutsu can have additional requirements to perform, to have higher strength requirements."

Should these values be 10, as defined in 3) Stats and How they Work? Or do Genjutsu follow a different stat gradient? If so this should be clarified somewhere.

[Lacarix]

I may be misreading of course, but I can’t find any rules in the Ninjutsu section about controlled ninjutsu. I’m currently updating my own jutsu and trying to work out the speed/strength distribution of fully controlled jutsu. I’m assuming it’s as fast and as strong as the users control stat? So say for example you have 35 control, the controlled jutsu would move at a 35 speed and strike with 35 strength? If this can be cleared up, that would be great!

[WrightJustice]

I still think there's confusion on the 9th and 10th concentration more so on the conc rules page: viewtopic.php?&t=5899683/1/#new

Anyone who hasn't seen the specialist rules yet will get confused why you bothered listing a 9th and 10th and then 9th is at 45 stats which is allowed anyway.
It's probably a good idea to make a note that mentions why you're only allowed 8 and says 9 and 10 are unlocked form specialists with a link.

Also I just caught this now after looking at the rules again but the concentration example uses Wit instead of Instinct.


Does Punslinger being in NSRP's signature count?

[SimpleSerenity]

I'd like to address the new taijutsu system; as someone who created or helped create a lot of the old styles, as someone who has a character with nothing but 35 custom taijutsu, and as someone who has practiced and taught martial arts for 20 years, I think this needs to be said:

The new system is very unkind to taijutsu users. Dividing taijutsu the way it is, into disciplines, stances, and maneuvers only hurts those who use taijutsu. Lets look at what each of those things is.

Disciplines are supposed to be passive techniques that allow you to do something all the time. For instance, tracker ninja who have improved tracking skills, or maybe a better trained nose or ears. In pyramid form this forces someone to create multiple low level techniques that may do the same thing. While it's not necessarily horrible, very styles would focus so heavily on these.

Stances are the main problem here. Stances are foundations from which your other techniques grow. I cannot stress this enough as an instructor. You do not EVER have a pyramid of stances. That defeats the entire point of having a stance. Stances are something you learn as a ingrained default from which you can operate and perform every single other technique from a particular style. Each style is bound to have a few, but they will be based upon one another, and thus would be more of a pillar than a pyramid. right now, if I had a shinobi with an S rank stance I would need to learn 15 stances. There isn't a single style in the world that needs 15 stances, especially when 5 of them are D rank which means they can really only do one thing.

I propose that, at the very least, stances be changed into pillar format. Disciplines should be as well, in my opinion, but you can at least invent a few of those to do... something if you really need to. Stances though, that just doesn't make any sense IC or OOC.

EDIT: Tyr suggested that stances and disciplines share a pyramid, I think this is a great idea.

[Kabu]

Building on that it would also work if Stances and Disciplines were combined into a single pyramid of their own with maneuvers still being separate.

[Taiga]

Kabu, Tyr, Sid, and I all discussed this in the box, but adding to sid's proposition, we'd really like to see stances and disciplines rolled out into it's own branch. Maybe just call it passive tai, since a stance basically acts as a passive as long as you're in it...

[Suzuri]

The Character Creation Guide no longer redirects to Miscellaneous Rules when discussing Minor Country folk. I believe it should be mandatory, as it would be extremely frustrating to make a character and then to be told about the harsh limitations on it.

Also, this is more of a request: Please, guys, please, make the forum more accessible. The Advanced Rules section, as well as Modifications forum, cannot be accessed unless one is logged in. It can be off-putting to be required to make an account when one is investigating a roleplaying site. For example, continuing from my above example, even if the link was put in place, one would have to register in order to find an important and useful rule, which feels wrong.

[Takumi]

The rules for Advanced Channeling are confusing. In one section, it says you just need to be a Specialist with Control chosen, but then in the Ninjutsu one it says it specifically requires Ninjutsu Specialist. Hayate and I were discussing it in the cbox and it makes more sense if it isn't limited to only nin specialists, since Nintai users and Elemental users should be able to channel. Just wanted clarification on that.

[Sia]

This makes Sankaton's strength, and it's Sankaton is a super release a


in viewtopic.php?&t=5922348/



Ishiguro cannot pick up become a Taijutsu Specialist

viewtopic.php?&t=5937079/1/#new

[Ace Trainer]

I'd like to address the new taijutsu system; as someone who created or helped create a lot of the old styles, as someone who has a character with nothing but 35 custom taijutsu, and as someone who has practiced and taught martial arts for 20 years, I think this needs to be said:

The new system is very unkind to taijutsu users. Dividing taijutsu the way it is, into disciplines, stances, and maneuvers only hurts those who use taijutsu. Lets look at what each of those things is.

Disciplines are supposed to be passive techniques that allow you to do something all the time. For instance, tracker ninja who have improved tracking skills, or maybe a better trained nose or ears. In pyramid form this forces someone to create multiple low level techniques that may do the same thing. While it's not necessarily horrible, very styles would focus so heavily on these.

Stances are the main problem here. Stances are foundations from which your other techniques grow. I cannot stress this enough as an instructor. You do not EVER have a pyramid of stances. That defeats the entire point of having a stance. Stances are something you learn as a ingrained default from which you can operate and perform every single other technique from a particular style. Each style is bound to have a few, but they will be based upon one another, and thus would be more of a pillar than a pyramid. right now, if I had a shinobi with an S rank stance I would need to learn 15 stances. There isn't a single style in the world that needs 15 stances, especially when 5 of them are D rank which means they can really only do one thing.

I propose that, at the very least, stances be changed into pillar format. Disciplines should be as well, in my opinion, but you can at least invent a few of those to do... something if you really need to. Stances though, that just doesn't make any sense IC or OOC.

EDIT: Tyr suggested that stances and disciplines share a pyramid, I think this is a great idea.

On my phone atm and cant make edits so i'm only replying to this one atm.

I discussed pyramids or trees for both of these and landed back on pyramids for both.

Disciplines are pyramids because you should have multiple disciplines within an art. We did not want people to have to grow disciplines in having one version, then having a stronger version, then having a stronger version, which pillars encourage. Instead, the idea, as something you have learned to do should be done anways, is that you break it down into parts. If you want to be a super liar, you would have a series of low rank disciplines that accumulated into a high ranking super discipline.

The Stances I'm well aware of what you're saying and that was more-or-less intentional. Stances are, for the most part, going to be used as stat boosts, or utilized to achieve effects. The concern with putting them in a pillar was that high ranking stances are going to achieve effects that ninjutsu cannot do because of how we balance ninjutsu. Pyramids displayed a better flow of learning. Additionally, since stances can be stat boosts, variants of the same stance can exist within a style for different types of boosts.

All of taijutsu is designed to be comprehensive because the nature of taijutsu is all-encompassing. Aside from the efcects, the actual combative, and a lot of the disciplines, of taijutsu can be done purely on the taijutsu stat. Jutsu reinforce and represent mastery of the skill. That it can be done with success, not based on improvision.

So yeah, can discuss, but it was mostly designed like this on purpose.

[SimpleSerenity]

I'd like to address the new taijutsu system; as someone who created or helped create a lot of the old styles, as someone who has a character with nothing but 35 custom taijutsu, and as someone who has practiced and taught martial arts for 20 years, I think this needs to be said:

The new system is very unkind to taijutsu users. Dividing taijutsu the way it is, into disciplines, stances, and maneuvers only hurts those who use taijutsu. Lets look at what each of those things is.

Disciplines are supposed to be passive techniques that allow you to do something all the time. For instance, tracker ninja who have improved tracking skills, or maybe a better trained nose or ears. In pyramid form this forces someone to create multiple low level techniques that may do the same thing. While it's not necessarily horrible, very styles would focus so heavily on these.

Stances are the main problem here. Stances are foundations from which your other techniques grow. I cannot stress this enough as an instructor. You do not EVER have a pyramid of stances. That defeats the entire point of having a stance. Stances are something you learn as a ingrained default from which you can operate and perform every single other technique from a particular style. Each style is bound to have a few, but they will be based upon one another, and thus would be more of a pillar than a pyramid. right now, if I had a shinobi with an S rank stance I would need to learn 15 stances. There isn't a single style in the world that needs 15 stances, especially when 5 of them are D rank which means they can really only do one thing.

I propose that, at the very least, stances be changed into pillar format. Disciplines should be as well, in my opinion, but you can at least invent a few of those to do... something if you really need to. Stances though, that just doesn't make any sense IC or OOC.

EDIT: Tyr suggested that stances and disciplines share a pyramid, I think this is a great idea.

On my phone atm and cant make edits so i'm only replying to this one atm.

I discussed pyramids or trees for both of these and landed back on pyramids for both.

Disciplines are pyramids because you should have multiple disciplines within an art. We did not want people to have to grow disciplines in having one version, then having a stronger version, then having a stronger version, which pillars encourage. Instead, the idea, as something you have learned to do should be done anways, is that you break it down into parts. If you want to be a super liar, you would have a series of low rank disciplines that accumulated into a high ranking super discipline.

The Stances I'm well aware of what you're saying and that was more-or-less intentional. Stances are, for the most part, going to be used as stat boosts, or utilized to achieve effects. The concern with putting them in a pillar was that high ranking stances are going to achieve effects that ninjutsu cannot do because of how we balance ninjutsu. Pyramids displayed a better flow of learning. Additionally, since stances can be stat boosts, variants of the same stance can exist within a style for different types of boosts.

All of taijutsu is designed to be comprehensive because the nature of taijutsu is all-encompassing. Aside from the efcects, the actual combative, and a lot of the disciplines, of taijutsu can be done purely on the taijutsu stat. Jutsu reinforce and represent mastery of the skill. That it can be done with success, not based on improvision.

So yeah, can discuss, but it was mostly designed like this on purpose.

The problem with this by design is that it makes a Taijutsu fighter severely disadvantaged.

If I wanted to be a decent Ninjutsu user I would need Ninjutsu, Control, and arguably stamina.

If I want to be an even USEABLE Taijutsu user I need Strength, Speed, Stamina, Instinct (because it's required for disciplines for some reason) and Taijutsu.

So I need to use almost double the amount of stats to be on par, on top of that, the way you have it setup I have to train twice or even three times as many jutsu because I need to make useless filler just to get the rank of abilities I would actually use. I thought the last time we redid the system it was to remove the need of making useless jutsu mandatory.

The system as it stands just seems skewed heavily in favor of caster types. Which is strange since all you seem to hear is "Taijutsu is OP." Taijutsu is "OP" only because the people who use it tend not to stand in one spot and let you just farcast them. Having to train three times as hard to even be equals and then finding out you need to train twice as many jutsu as well just to have a chance is going to frustrate a ton of people. I'll do it regardless, because I like taijutsu, but nobody new is going to want to do it.

[Valkier]

Grammatical error in Ninpou Styles:

*[Ninjutsu • Barrier]
C-Ranked Ninjutsu
After performing the correct hand seals the user, a cube barrier 10x10x10 meters in size forms around a target at a speed of 12 up to 10 meters away from the user's position. The barrier springs up almost instantly and can be broken out by a hit of 8 or higher, or fading after 4 posts.

The underlined needs review - but actually the whole technique can be worded better. Should be something like:

*[Ninjutsu • Barrier]
C-Ranked Ninjutsu
After performing the correct hand seals the user forms a 10m³ barrier around a target up to 10m away from their position. The barrier forms at a speed of 12, has a strength of 8, and lasts 4 posts before fading away.

[b]*[color=#80A0FF][Ninjutsu • Barrier][/color][/b]
C-Ranked Ninjutsu
After performing the correct hand seals the user forms a 10m[sup]3[/sup] barrier around a target up to 10m away from their position. The barrier forms at a speed of 12, has a strength of 8, and lasts 4 posts before fading away.

[Servant]

The Yoshin techniques aren't coded similarly to all the other styles that I've seen. When you copy paste them, there's no color or coding left.

[Legacy]

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I noticed the nocode for the Sensory concentration isn't included in the section where it is found.

[Takumi]

Mist also are missing no codes

[7eleven]

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The difference between nin specialization and elemental specialization doesn't exactly seem clear to me, might just want to add some info about what each can do that the other can't.

[7eleven]

I find the fact that we're limiting custom jutsu in certain pyramids to people that take a certain specialization to be kind of concerning.

I understand that these things need to be limited, but limiting based on creativity is something that I disagree with on principle and that I feel is counter-productive to the forum as a whole. The idea of this forum is to create a place in which we can write creatively, and having a rule that directly and purposefully limits that creativity doesn't belong here.

I'm fine and dandy with limiting these things based on power- for example, someone without a specialization can only use up to B-rank jutsu of certain pyramids. I'm sure there are other options as well, but this is the one that immediately comes to mind.