Naruto Saigen Roleplay

It used to be
D=1 tag, 5 strength, 1m³ blast
C=3 tags, 10 strength, 3m³ blast
B=1 tags, 20 strength, 5m³ blast
A=9 tags, 25 strength, 7m³ blast
S=11 tags, 35 strength, 9m³ blast
40=13
45=15
S(50)=17 tags, 50 strength, 17m³ blast

So it's higher at A-Rank, just barely.

However, if it doubles rather than going up by 2,

D=1 tag, 5 strength, 1m³ blast
C=2 tags, 10 strength, 2m³ blast
B=4 tags, 20 strength, 4m³ blast
A=8 tags, 25 strength, 8m³ blast
S=16 tags, 35 strength, 16m³ blast
40=32 tags
45=64 tags
S(50)=128 tags, 50 strength, 128m³ blast

So it's WAY better endgame, and more true to the exponential increase of strength as jutsu strengths rise.

Fair point. I'm not bothered by A-ranks having that strength at all, just found it odd to jump up so much when the ninjutsu req only rose a little. Whichever way works for me tbh.

Onu still doesn't have a 325 like he's supposed to

Why does heavenly tai start at B-rank?

That seems to limit the usefulness of the conc by preventing players from making smaller-scale techniques.

Brentston:

Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:45 pm

Why does heavenly tai start at B-rank?

That seems to limit the usefulness of the conc by preventing players from making smaller-scale techniques.

That's like asking why Space/Time starts at C rank or Overlay Genjutsu start at B rank. It's a highly advanced, incredibly powerful skillset that requires a very high skill level and exceptionally high stats to even begin to effectively make use of, much less master.

Yeah I get that.

But in those things also, having lower rank skills can still provide a useful degree of utility. Some situations are benefited better by a D-rank jutsu.

It's probably because rank is our system of gauging both complexity and stamina/chakra cost of techniques. Heavenly Tai, just like s/t, overlay, etc. are difficult and draining in general to perform, moreso than conventional techniques, and therefore start at a higher rank to reflect that.

To clarify - simply put, even a "basic" utility technique within these styles is beyond the scope of low rank techniques in terms of difficulty/cost.

I noticed whilst making new jutsu there were some errors in the Yamanaka jutsu archives.
Some say "preforming" instead of "performing" for the handseals and some say "illicit a -X debuff" instead of "elicit" which I realised was wrong when trying to say "illiciting", which is not a word since illicit is along the lines of being forbidden or illegal.

Not sure if this has been addressed, but I noticed some errors with the Genkouyoushi jutsu. Some were probably just left over from the transfer while others are naming errors:
*Ninja Art: Cling has Paper Folding: Second Fold as a prerequisite, even though it is no longer a jutsu
*Ninja Art: Flypaper Trap mentions A-4 paper while the sizes Genkouyoushi are able to use no longer follow said definitions
*The A-Rank variations of Tear and Fold are called "Lesser", rather than "Greater" or something that is above Adept

So, possibly minor/major problem to address that I've stumbled upon while converting ninjutsu to NS's system!

Where's the rules for S50 ninjutsu? There doesn't seem to be any here where the rest of the Ninjutsu strength rules are at. For that matter, Gun pointed out, there's no rules for S50 clones either!

Now there is something in there that applies to some S50 techs, but that's only for explosions as Check pointed out just a few posts before me. But what about regular ol' plain Jane S50 stuff? Where's the rules on that?

It is also possible that Gun and I both missed where these rules are kept because it's obscure or something. If so, this would be my mistake. But if they are somewhere else, perhaps they should be combined with the above linked post so that they're easier to find?

With that being addressed, I'm off to go make ridiculously OP ninjutsu.

The rules for S(50) are covered there, they're just not directly shown in a table with the others:

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For the requirement to perform a technique, the amount of speed and strength it has to distribute is 2 times that. This means a B-rank jutsu, which has a requirement of 20 to perform, has 40 points to distribute between speed and strength.

An S(50) will therefore have 100 "points" to distribute between speed & strength (so can go up to 50str and 50spd). An S(45) has 90 "points", and so on and so forth.

But in general there is no "plain jane" S(50) template with the others because that class of technique implies it will be anything but simple and plain. Defined clone rules go almost all the way - you can likely extrapolate up to 50 if you're just doing a "standard" technique.

Everything fixed so far.

@Bomb Jutsu Suggestion.

That jump to 128 is way too large. As well as the range is absolutely way too large. And we're gonna have to say no. We'll look at it, and see what we can do to scale it better, or see if it even needs a relook. But Unfortunately we cannot use that suggestion.

With the new Banlist out, wouldn't the Dasu clan be banned?

To train the basic jutsu you need to learn it from a PC who already knows them. <--- MC rules. I was always told that this was not true. That a MC's hench could teach them, just as you can teach your MC hench. It was first told to me by Ori, then I think it was Ian? But yeah

Talto95:

Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:58 am

With the new Banlist out, wouldn't the Dasu clan be banned?

Talt...you're amazing.

Sia:

Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:48 pm

Talto95:

Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:58 am

With the new Banlist out, wouldn't the Dasu clan be banned?

Talt...you're amazing.

Haha. Though I would argue Dasu are on a macro scale kinda like Iijutsu which works kind of molecular but it's all at once and the best way to describe it, like it's not really attacking molecule by molecule.

Tenkujutsu should still be in registration.

Dasu will be reworded. Ori made them unnecessarily sciency.

Tenkujutsu is still being checked as necessary to ensure its good.

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every instance of the word "Manoeuvre" lmao

Sia:

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:32 pm

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every instance of the word "Manoeuvre" lmao

It was spelled this way as nafan did the style iirc and that's how you spell it outside of the US.

huh

interesting

Sand style archives has 3 B ranks, 3 A ranks, and 3 S ranks, and also one of the S ranks is called 'Boob.'

The archives aren't very consistent, such as the katon archives having its differently ranked jutsu inside of different spoilers, others keep them in individual quote tags, and others just have a small header saying "D-Rank" and so on.

I've just noticed that there are some discrepancies in the mechanics of Kaenton compared to Hyouton; I always thought these two styles should work in a similar, but opposite, manner (hence the reason why Hyouton is actually a "temperature reduction" ability rather than just outright producing ice!)

Kaenton:

While Hizashi are naturally resistant to increased temperature, even they can succumb to the excessive heat of their techniques. The heat increase, and the area they can increase, is determined by the rank of techniques, making the elder Hizashi the most danger, able to create flashes of heat that can kill with ease.

Hyouton:

Interestingly enough, the jutsu used by the Aisu clan are not largely limited by the amount they change the temperature, but instead by the size of the area they reducing the temperature of. This means a B-rank jutsu won’t necessarily make an area colder than a D-rank jutsu, but the area reduced in temperature would be smaller for the D-rank than for the B-rank. The only exception is freezing organic material directly, which requires higher ranking techniques.

I don't mind which way it swings, but I think they should be adjusted to work in a similar manner. Since we already limit jutsu area within reason by rank, I think the Aisu should have their cooling ranges impacted by rank.
Also:
The Hizashi should receive the note about heating organic material requiring a higher rank. Or neither clan should get that treatment, but I think this is a good thing to include.
The Aisu should receive the note about being naturally resistant to decreased temperatures (but not immune to their techniques, exactly how the Hizashi are treated). Or neither clan should get that treatment.

Also - Atarasu's archive page should be updated to swap Enton to Ranton, because those clans/fusions were swapped with the overhaul. Kab is updating this on his Jinch page as I write this, so that can be carried across the to legendary beast thread.

From here: viewtopic.php?&t=?p=1985641&t=5899683

S-Rank Overlay - 37 Genjutsu, 33 Control, and 30 Instinct. That control requirement should be higher since normal S rank Genjutsu require 35 control by default, and also that instinct prerequisite seems a bit on the low side to me but that's up to you guys.

The passives of quite a few of the elements seem a bit off to me. With Katon and Raiton for example (don't know which others are the same), the ninjutsu prerequisite for each strength of passive goes 1-10, 11-20, etc. Which seems really strange cause base C rank has the same passive As D rank but 1 nin up and you increase the passive (if that makes sense.) it'd probably be better to have the table go 1-9, 10-19, etc etc

This jutsu uses both Metric and Imperial measurement.

Sanjuro07: .. I love how the Other Country Descriptions
Sanjuro07: Is literally just the oooooold and shitty description of Tea Country
Valkieri: lol
Sanjuro07: That's the only other country we have.
Sanjuro07: You RP there or GTFO
Sanjuro07: Lol
Valkieri: should probably just replace it with a link to the countries list/world map huh
ChiefApprenticeKab: probably

This thread. The world was so much simpler in 2012, huh.

PR got it sorted, nvm chaps. Nothing to see here.

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*Mist Constriction
C-rank Ninjutsu
After performing the correct handseals, the user will focus on a 3x3x3m area of mist. This mist will then become extremely dense, weighing down with 10 strength. Anyone caught within this area with less than 10 strength will be unable to move, and anything with more than 10 strength passing through the area will have its speed reduced by 6.

Everything about this is wrong. If they have exactly 10 strength they're unaffected. It's by nature a ranged debuff and so it should be downranked twice. It's also a C-Rank, so even if it wasn't downranked for some reason it'd cap at -3 not -6.

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~Mokuton • Guardian
C-Rank Ninjutsu
After performing the correct hand seals, a small tree will erupt from the ground next to the user, quickly forming into a person before becoming an exact replica of them. The clone is capable of performing Mokuton ninjutsu C-Rank or lower.

Taijutsu: 3
Stamina: 7
Strength: 1
Speed: 1

D rank clones can only have a max of 6 in any stat.

The Companion Template doesn't have a section for chakra affinity and I'm not sure if it was intentionally left out or what.

tenkujutsu advanced rules

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Realm Summoning also overlays a different environment pulled from the spirit realm. This realm can be anything from lava fields, swamp lands, or blindingly cold snow stormy fields. This overlay does not effect the existing terrain, IE a summoned lava field would effect those who step in, but the environment it overlays like buildings, trees, and etc. will not effected.

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Spirit Sealing: Said to be the origins of fuuinjutsu, thi involves the use of binding the spirit and host or object together, resulting in an intricate design somewhere on the host or object reminiscent of a fuuinjutsu. .

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often referred to as Jinchuuriki, though the terms is often used exclusively for those with Genma sealed in them.

from the description under Registration on the main page:

Quote:

Please mark what you're registering wit the [Type] tag available in the topic creation section.

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*[Genjutsu • Temple of Nirvana]
A-Ranked Warp Genjutsu
This is a Genjutsu technique that allows the caster to place a large body of people into an unconscious state by performing the hand seals and whistling loudly. Once the targets hear the whistle, they will see feathers falling down, and, if the opponent realizes this is a genjutsu, they just need a genjutsu stat of 12 to break out of it. If they don't break out of the genjutsu, the target will fall asleep at the end of that post.

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The only unique case in status genjutsu is sleep genjutsu. Genjutsu that put targets to sleep must include 1 post that gives the target a chance to realize they're in a genjutsu, and only requires 10 genjutsu to break. Sleep genjutsu with these specs must be A-rank, though the rank can be lowered by extending the post count before hand, and the kai requirement can be increased by making it higher ranked.

One of these is wrong

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Sankaton Affinity:

Sankaton Affinity
A character with this concentration is able to utilize Sankaton, and advanced form of Katon, and can make and use any custom or archived jutsu that require the Sankaton affinity. Sankaton has an eroding effect. Those without the Elemental Specialization cannot make custom Sankaton jutsu.

Could be a bit confusing for new people. Obviously you need Elemental Spec to make custom jutsu, but the first part makes it seem like you don't. Easy fix, just thought I'd point it out.

Not sure if this is the place for this but the Hizashi archives only have 4 D and 4 C ranks

So issue on my character colors drop down. When I go to use it the first color shows as "#b591d1Alt. Color 2", making it unusable. I just double checked in my profile and its not anything on my end. My first color code in my profile should be just "#b591d1".

Also as a note, though we have new slots in our profile for all ten colors, we can't actually select any but the top five.

For reference:

org rules:

"1 Completed B-Rank PB (Earn-able up to 3 times)1 Outpost (Increases"

Senju Clan:

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Traits: The Senju clan posses a few unifying traits such as: Their hair tends to vary in shades of brown and black. The hue of their eyes tend to be hazel to green, and they have a natural aroma resembling tree's and the outdoors. Senju clan members also generally dawn traditional samurai armor to show their lineage and ancestry.

Dawn should be don.

Aes Sedai:

Wed May 10, 2017 2:49 pm

So issue on my character colors drop down. When I go to use it the first color shows as "#b591d1Alt. Color 2", making it unusable. I just double checked in my profile and its not anything on my end. My first color code in my profile should be just "#b591d1".

Also as a note, though we have new slots in our profile for all ten colors, we can't actually select any but the top five.

For reference:

I noticed we have more slots now which is awesome.

But I'm still having this other issue, any thoughts?