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Why are the weapons village locked?

Post by CDF » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:28 am

I'd understand if it were done like the genma where they're insanely powerful and have repurcussions for the entire village just by existing and because all villages were allocated 2.

Village locking weapons doesn't help balance or OOC logic, it jus leaves a very real possibility of unbalance i power that'll be stuck that way. Why not just lotto each time?

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Post by Principle » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:04 am

Or, why not have it so they are like Genma, you can steal them and whatnot if you perform an S-Rank Plotboard or whatever.
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Post by Jinan B » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:21 am

Because MN can't have nice things
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Post by Principle » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:30 am

Which is becoming tedious, this site is obviously village orientated.
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Post by CDF » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:16 am

that wouldn't fix the balance issue, but should be the case anyways.

We can just make it that on stealing, the thief needs to pay the price of the weapon to the person they're stealing it from

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Post by Sia » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:40 am

errr. as i recall, MN can go for them as well, for the record
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Post by Kabu » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:42 am

Sia:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:40 pm
errr. as i recall, MN can go for them as well, for the record
And I seem to recall someone saying that they get locked to Other Countries if MN do end up winning and successfully retrieving them.

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Post by WrightJustice » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:49 am

Some of the arguments brought up when discussing Check's big plot, at least by Onu anyway, is that if something like Rain's glove got lost or stolen it was supposed to be made that they would teleport somewhere where he would find it again (e.g. in his toilet or closet).

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Post by CDF » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:37 am

soooo bump.

Original arguments still stand.


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Post by Ace Trainer » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:47 am

Sorry. I'll explain sometime today
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Post by Sia » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:48 pm

Kitsui:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:04 am
Or, why not have it so they are like Genma, you can steal them and whatnot if you perform an S-Rank Plotboard or whatever.
I thought this was the case for the weapons too?
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Post by Jinan B » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:12 pm

Why is it a very real possibility of imbalance if the weapons are decided between villages and not if 1 village could theoretically end up with all 10 weapons? Just wondering if your reasoning extends beyond "because MN"
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Post by Aes Sedai » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:55 pm

Sia:
Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:48 pm
Kitsui:
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Or, why not have it so they are like Genma, you can steal them and whatnot if you perform an S-Rank Plotboard or whatever.
I thought this was the case for the weapons too?
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Post by Ace Trainer » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:49 pm

Sorry, I kno I said I'd reply sooner but, like, life and stuff

Only the 5 Evils are village locked, the Armoury resets every it gets a new owner. Its impossible to pass the armoury down because "mythical bs" or whatever.

The reason I did it this way was actually because they're so unlike the genma. The genma are "extremely powerful" and a village being in possession of more than the others would give that village a pretty big advantage, at least at a political level. By delegating 2 to each village, it motivates users to act in a way to try and create the imbalance, and take the genma from another village.

The weapons are intended to be the opposite in effect. Individually the weapons are strongish and unique, but nothing extremely special. But all of them together would be a pretty big deal. By allowing an un-even distribution, it gives one village a little bit of a power up, but not an extreme one, and allows for users to act as movers of plot more easily.

So yeah, that was my logic in that decision. Sorry it took so long to respond.
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Post by CDF » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:39 pm

That makes sense and I support that logic, except to me it seems like it's the logic that supports not locking them into villages at all.

Since it's not a big deal if a village gets an uneven number, it'd be far better IMO if the fate of the weapons weren't locked to any one village they were immediately lotto'd to. We could just lotto them to a new village each time and let them be affected by plot (be stolen and such like the genma).

Unless I missed something.

and thanks for the reply. Late's better than never.

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Post by Takumi » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:41 pm

I'd like to see a compromise on it that seems like it could encourage the plot moving that onu wants. What if the item stays in the village until taken? Kinda like a wand in Harry Potter, except the weapon chooses the user and then the village. So, if inactivity or whatever, the weapon stats in the village, but it can still be taken, and it switches loyalty until taken again.

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Post by Ace Trainer » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:03 pm

I mean, I have no authority on it. I was just explain my logic as to why I chose to do it the way I did.
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Post by CDF » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:18 am

bump

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Post by CDF » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:53 pm

Bringing this back to life now that I have authority to do anything about it ;D

Does anybody not agree with making it so the weapons aren't village locked? Once they're lost, they're just relotto'd in general again.

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Post by Gara » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:02 am

IMO I would say for them to be lotto'ed like genma when the owner goes inactive, but for them to also change hands if their owner is beaten/killed. Like Takumi was saying sort of. The Elder Wand in harry potter changes loyalties every time it's owner is beaten or killed, and only works for its current owner. So if you beat someone to the point where there was no denying that you were the winner, even if you didn't kill them, the weapon would change loyalties for you, and would only work for you.
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Post by Strategist » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:54 pm

This hasn't gone into effect yet. Why?

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Post by Zao » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Sounds like a solid idea.
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Post by Principle » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:05 am

Yeah, still makes no sense that we can't hunt them, yet we can hunt genmas
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Post by Kabu » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:32 am

The staff is going to be discussing this, we however currently have much bigger concerns on our plate and this isn't anywhere close to being a priority. On behalf of the staff I just ask that you be patient and wait for us to come to an answer.

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